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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4329282" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Scribble, you've convinced me of two things. First off, that Hong is worth taking off ignore, because I don't like to have more than one person on ignore, and two, that you're precisely one post away from getting on my ignore list. It'd be unfair for me to tell you that without explaining why, as you're clearly fairly young and new to this posting on the internet business, so here's why:</p><p></p><p>1) You're quoting my post but not referencing the quotes. Don't quote me if you're not going to reference me <em>directly</em>. It wastes space and confuses the issue.</p><p></p><p>2) Your posts are clearly written in <em>extreme haste</em>, full of mispellings, unecessary breaks, and typos. So I do not believe you're actually <em>thinking</em> about what you're writing at all. I'd suggest you slow down and think seriously about what you're posting. I know your name is Scribble, but you don't need to take that literally. Edit your posts a bit. See what needs to be there, and what doesn't.</p><p></p><p>3) Specific issues:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you're misrepresenting my position by saying that. Either you didn't read the bit you quoted. As you seem to lack malice, I feel it's the former. I'm saying it's usefulness is limited to character generation, not that it's blankly "not useful". Others may be, but I am not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, either you didn't read, or you're intentionally misrepresenting my position. Quote me where I "pronounce the end of all days and utter ruin and horror". I feel am criticizing constructively. I've described what they need to add, and I've pointed out the problems with what they have. If you're generalising, "what I see from a lot of people" implies, <em>do not quote me and then do so</em>. That's downright rude. I'd advise just not generalising, and instead responding to the posts people actually write.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not reading or misleading again. I've not said that I begrudge anyone. I have said that this tool is only significantly useful in character generation, and I've played 4E and written adventures for it, so I think I have some vague basis for saying this. I'm not saying you're a bad person for liking it. I am saying that your <em>apparent</em> attitude is not helpful to it being improved or added to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again with the not reading or attempting to mislead. That's not what I said, is it? Re-read slowly it if you think it is.</p><p></p><p>Finally you say two things which are worth responding to properly, I presume you'd calmed down - so:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it further limits it's potential utility, you'd agree, I think? I'm telling you as someone who has written and run adventures for 4E, that this tool is unlikely to see <em>significant</em> use in either department. If I was building a player character right now, I might use it, because it would save time in some ways. I'm sure I'll find a use for it every third or forth adventure I write, but I think your examples regarding rituals were outright unrealistic (why would a player e-mail you when he could just look in his PHB or use this tool, for example).</p><p></p><p>It's not what I was expecting, and it's not something that's likely to useful to DMs on a regular basis in it's present form.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, but this is problematic because previously you said:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So it seems to me that the reason you don't mind these elements not being present is partially based on the assumption that product no longer in evidence will appear bearing those features. Personally as I don't see any recent mention of the encounter builder, and since the encounter builder was last mentioned, they've changed the "Rules Compendium" from a rules compendium to what amounts to "chargen/advancement info". That doesn't make me a cynic, or even a skeptic. I'd have to be something other than purely rational be assuming that a product not mentioned existed, surely?</p><p></p><p>Aaaaanyway, if you just think a bit more before you post next time (you know how hastily you wrote that post), and maybe use the Preview function, then we'll get along just fine, and no ignores will have to happen, and as part of the deal, I'll take extra care to avoid insulting you. Sound ok?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 4329282, member: 18"] Scribble, you've convinced me of two things. First off, that Hong is worth taking off ignore, because I don't like to have more than one person on ignore, and two, that you're precisely one post away from getting on my ignore list. It'd be unfair for me to tell you that without explaining why, as you're clearly fairly young and new to this posting on the internet business, so here's why: 1) You're quoting my post but not referencing the quotes. Don't quote me if you're not going to reference me [I]directly[/I]. It wastes space and confuses the issue. 2) Your posts are clearly written in [I]extreme haste[/I], full of mispellings, unecessary breaks, and typos. So I do not believe you're actually [I]thinking[/I] about what you're writing at all. I'd suggest you slow down and think seriously about what you're posting. I know your name is Scribble, but you don't need to take that literally. Edit your posts a bit. See what needs to be there, and what doesn't. 3) Specific issues: No, you're misrepresenting my position by saying that. Either you didn't read the bit you quoted. As you seem to lack malice, I feel it's the former. I'm saying it's usefulness is limited to character generation, not that it's blankly "not useful". Others may be, but I am not. Again, either you didn't read, or you're intentionally misrepresenting my position. Quote me where I "pronounce the end of all days and utter ruin and horror". I feel am criticizing constructively. I've described what they need to add, and I've pointed out the problems with what they have. If you're generalising, "what I see from a lot of people" implies, [I]do not quote me and then do so[/I]. That's downright rude. I'd advise just not generalising, and instead responding to the posts people actually write. Not reading or misleading again. I've not said that I begrudge anyone. I have said that this tool is only significantly useful in character generation, and I've played 4E and written adventures for it, so I think I have some vague basis for saying this. I'm not saying you're a bad person for liking it. I am saying that your [I]apparent[/I] attitude is not helpful to it being improved or added to. Again with the not reading or attempting to mislead. That's not what I said, is it? Re-read slowly it if you think it is. Finally you say two things which are worth responding to properly, I presume you'd calmed down - so: But it further limits it's potential utility, you'd agree, I think? I'm telling you as someone who has written and run adventures for 4E, that this tool is unlikely to see [I]significant[/I] use in either department. If I was building a player character right now, I might use it, because it would save time in some ways. I'm sure I'll find a use for it every third or forth adventure I write, but I think your examples regarding rituals were outright unrealistic (why would a player e-mail you when he could just look in his PHB or use this tool, for example). It's not what I was expecting, and it's not something that's likely to useful to DMs on a regular basis in it's present form. Yep, but this is problematic because previously you said: So it seems to me that the reason you don't mind these elements not being present is partially based on the assumption that product no longer in evidence will appear bearing those features. Personally as I don't see any recent mention of the encounter builder, and since the encounter builder was last mentioned, they've changed the "Rules Compendium" from a rules compendium to what amounts to "chargen/advancement info". That doesn't make me a cynic, or even a skeptic. I'd have to be something other than purely rational be assuming that a product not mentioned existed, surely? Aaaaanyway, if you just think a bit more before you post next time (you know how hastily you wrote that post), and maybe use the Preview function, then we'll get along just fine, and no ignores will have to happen, and as part of the deal, I'll take extra care to avoid insulting you. Sound ok? [/QUOTE]
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