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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 3707205" data-attributes="member: 21169">I love WAR. More WAR!!That out of the way, does dungeonpunk mean spikey armor, oversized weapons and big muscles? If it does 4e art is dungeonpunk. If it means piercings, tats, bare midriffs and spikey hair then it isn't.I had a look through the 3.5e PHB. There is only one example of a facial piercing - Naull on page 110 has a pierced nose and lower lip. There are lots of pierced ears, often multiples, on men and women. Lots of tats or body markings that might be. A few bare midriffs on women - Mialee, Ember and a succubus (but then you'd expect that of a succubus). I couldn't find any really spikey hair, though Krusk and Hennet look like they use a bit of gel. Alhandra's stays up because of her 80s headband.The 3.5e PHB certainly refelected the fashions of the time, as all D&D art has done. Elmore and Brom's stuff looks irredemably 80s and 90s to me. It seems there is a move in 4e to more fantastical, timeless art. What one might call classic. Personally I rather like the contemporary influences, but the 4e art so far certainly rocks, especially that mean looking beholder.</blockquote>