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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 1424214" data-attributes="member: 6398">That would end upgrading editions for me, unless 4E continues the Open Game concept and those stats are available sans minithefts...  Ehr, miniatures.  If not, it would be over; I'd remain d20/OGL. At the same time, even if 4E isn't miniatures-driven (which I also foresee happening, so I'm not holding my breath) and d20-based, but isn't OGC (i.e., no SRD update), than I'd be dropping it as well. (And a quick echo of Dr. Anomalous's dreamworld of D&D by way of Green Ronin, although there are 2-3 other companies that I would find equally pleasing...) Staffan: Not really.  The Options were part of the last Monstrous Compendium Appendix (last 2?  Can't remember...) and most of the Dark Sun material that followed also used the Options.  Granted, this was all the Psionics system and nothing else, but it was used. As is, though, quite a bit of the Options made it into 3.X: Metamagic from Spells & Magic, the current Skills system is closer to the Skills & Powers Skill System than either are to NWPs, several melee Feats (including Sunder, Cleave, etc.) as well as Epic Spellcasting were High Level Campaign options, and quite a few combat rules are direct portations or evolutions of miniature rules from Combat & Tactics.  So I certainly wouldn't discredit the Option books; More of the options survived the birth of d20 than 1E/2E's core system did.</blockquote>