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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6395455" data-attributes="member: 2011">It took our group an average of two hours per PC for 5E. Course, we did not do it together in a group, nor did we know the rules well ahead of time.But if the rest of the group is playing and one player is off in a corner by himself, it really depends on the player. Many players are not invested enough in the game to know the PC creation rules that well. I might agree with you for 1E where most all of the abilities for a PC (without multiclassing) was in a single chart.But even spells are a pain in the butt. Do you know how long it takes to read just the first level spells for a given class and pick them, let alone picking spells for 4 levels? And 5E is worse than earlier editions where the spells were broken down by level and class. It takes a long time to shuffle though the spell pages in 5E, looking for the next spell. It could literally take a person 4 or 5 hours to create an 8th level spell caster in 5E. A different person could do it in 20 or 30 minutes, but I suspect such a person would already be familiar with that class and its spells (and other things like racial abilities).</blockquote>