Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7511528" data-attributes="member: 6880599">I am not saying your wrong but their are 2 considerations here.1. Enemy selection is GM dependent which means what your saying will not be true all the time with every GM. Even in that range the only common enemies under CR1 for level 1 fights with a higher than AC15 are Guards at AC16 and Hobgoblin AC18. The majority are AC12 and under.- For example, I just started a new group and they fought AC 8 Zombies on their first mission...2. Players rolls can make all the difference. I roll BAD so me rolling 3 attacks will mean less damage because I commonly miss all the attacks, so more attacks, statistically should be more damage but when I am only ever getting on success in a round I do better with single powerful strikes. Our party high roller on other hand doesn't miss hardly ever so he only cares about max average on hit. So only worried about hit because its a lot of math for an arbitrary number.3. You only need need 300 xp in a group before you level to 2 and the entire post is irrelevant.I will consed The typical "rats in the cellar" is a thing and rats have AC10. So while I don't think its statistically relevant number at tables due to player/GM variation... sure lets play with "to hit"Most players have a +5 attack at level 1 because its something they can control with point buy, standard array, and even rolling stats first and picking a class that fist those stats using the highest for their primary combat stat. Venus rat AC1080% Polearm Master {1d10+1d4+6} = {14} x .8 = 11.2 DPR55% Great Weapon Master (2d6+13) = [20] x.55 = 11 DPR So for typical rat in the cellar murder they are pretty much the same. however if are the Raging Strength Barbarian I listed as #1 static damage....55% Great Weapon Master (2d6+13 +2 RAGE) = [22] x.55 = 12.1 DPR Your still going to out DPR that Polearm Master...so.. my #1 stands. But that's not the majority of low level monsters you say? Well AC12 is.70% Polearm Master {1d10+1d4+6} = {14} x .7 = 9.8 DPR45% Great Weapon Master (2d6+13 +2 RAGE) = [22] x.45 = 9.9 DPR ...and the barbarian is scraping a head. Now if your GM likes high AC monsters at level 1 so your fighting a Hobgoblin AC18 out the gate and you roll better "to hit" than me, and do at least average damage... your going to beat my 0 DPR from missing every round. But that's so much speculation at that point its not worth trying to measure in my opinion. Primarily because I don't remember any GM I have ever played with making me fight enemies at level with an AC higher than 12 because they were worried they would party wipe in the first game. That diminishes every level and by 5 the gloves are completely off. But this thread is about level 1 characters, not whats going to be best for you later on as that is a lot more complicated.</blockquote>

Verification