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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7512247" data-attributes="member: 6880599">Sorry it took me so long to get to your post there is a lot going on here but some good points and I did put a High AC / High single 1 handed weapon DPR Balance at the bottom... let me see what you've got.- My first note is that D&D 5e has rules for taking the money instead of the gear in the PHB on page 143. The rules state: "When you create your character, you receive equipment based on a combination of your class and background. Alternatively, you can start with a number of gold pieces based on your class and spend them on items from the lists in this chapter." The problem is that Bard, Cleric, Fighter, Paladin, and Ranger get (5d4x10)gp the max it 200gp so while you can get Splint Mail with an extremely lucky role.. you don't have even have 1 silver for a club after that because you do not get background items and gold when you go this route. Studded leather 12+3Dex(at level 1), Scale Mail AC14+2 Dex and Chain mail AC16 are the only options that allow you to have armor and a weapon, not to mention a 10gp shield.- Second note is that "Blessing of the Forge" +1 AC or Damage is a Forge Domain Cleric ability so as a level 1 single class Barbarians and Fighters don't have access to it.- I see two basic for "optimal survivability" stats since the top contenders are human variant Barbarian/Cleric/FighterStrength build: STR 16, DEX 10, CON 16, WIZ 14Dexterity build: STR 10, DEX 16, CON 16, WIZ 14+2 wisdom is the highest used mental save, perception for ambushes, and needed for cleric.CON means more health and is great for everyone but needed for barbarian.without Medium Armor Master your looking at base 16 for both.With shield you get 18 for both. With Defensive fighting style or Blessing of the Forge you get 19 for both. - Forge Domain Cleric or Fighter the best AC since both could choose ether set of stats and make it work, however Barbarians get Rage so 50% non-magic damage. So its hard to say which is better. But I would say shield for all is good.- That really means were are looking at 18-19AC with a shield and max with a on handed 1d8 weapon which they all have access to with a shield.Edited your quotes below I hope you don't mind.So I think your at 19AC 7.5 average damage on defense and 16AC with 20 damage offense. How about:Fighter Balance - STR 10, DEX 16, CON 16, WIZ 14 HP:13Scale Mail AC14+2 Dex with Medium Armor Master and shield for AC19 Dueling fighting Style with a Finesse 1d8 weapon for 1d8+5 with a damage range of 6-13, average 9.5-or-Fighter Balance - STR 16, DEX 10, CON 16, WIZ 14 HP:13Chain mail AC16 with defensive fighting style for AC17Polearm Master with Quarterstaff for (1d8+3)(1d4+3) with a damage range of 8-18, average 13-or-Fighter Balance - STR 16, DEX 10, CON 16, WIZ 14 HP:13Chain mail AC16 with defensive fighting style for AC17Great Weapon Master with a Great sword for 2d6+13 with a damage range of 7-25, average 20-or-Tortle Fighter - STR 16, DEX 10, CON 16, WIZ 14 HP:13Tortle Natural Armor AC17 and Shield for AC19 Dueling fighting Style with a Finesse 1d8 weapon for 1d8+5 with a damage range of 6-13, average 9.5Because Tortle,lolBarbarian - STR 16, DEX 14, CON 16, WIZ 10 HP:15Scale mail + dex= AC16Great Weapon Master + Great sword 2d6+13+2 Rage is damage range 7-27, avg. 22-or- Barbarian - STR 14, DEX 16, CON 16, WIZ 10 HP:15Scale mail, medium armor mastery, and shield= AC19Rapier 1d6+3+2 Rage is damage range 6-11, avg. 8.5-------- VS ---------Human Variant War Cleric STR 10, DEX 16, CON 16, WIZ 14 HP:11---Human Variant Feat: Medium Armor Master - Scale mail AC14(Max3) and shield= AC19---Rapier (1d8 + dex)---War Prist Bonus Action (1d8 + 3)(1d8 + 3)---War Domain 1st level Spell: divine favor +1d4 (1d8 + 3 + 1d4)(1d8 + 3 + 1d4)DPR Range 10 - 30 DPR Average: 20...seems like the most well rounded to me....</blockquote>

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