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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8258754" data-attributes="member: 7030563">So I think this is a little unfair because clerics get their subclass at level 1, if you made it level 3 I think it would be a lot different.That said, max damage ranged probably goes to a variant human or custom lineage Rogue with a heavy crossbow if you assume Sneak Attack is &quot;static&quot;--Heavy Crossbow (1d10 + dex)---16 dex (1d10 + 3)---Human Variant/custom lineage Feat: Sharpshooter +10 (1d10 + 13)--- sneak attack (1d6)DPR Range 15 - 29DPR Average: 22also a Warlock with GWM and a 16 strength running hex can beat the forge cleric for multiple fight MAX Melee DPRMultiple Fight Max Melee DPR(using a concentration spell, Limited Repeatable)Human Variant/custom Warlock (any patron)---Great Sword (2d6 + str)---16 Str (2d6 + 3)---Human Variant Feat: Great Weapon Master +10 (2d6 + 13)---Hex +1d6 (2d6 + 1d6 + 13)Range (16-31)Average 23.5&nbsp; Note despite the same average for a normal hit, the warlock does 1 hp more damage on a crit and therefore wins this as a tie breaker.Of course it is important to point out these (and the rest of the examples) are a white room build.&nbsp; We are ignoring attack rolls here and assuming every attack hits.&nbsp; If you consider attack rolls the damage is far less &quot;in the real world&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8258754, member: 7030563"] So I think this is a little unfair because clerics get their subclass at level 1, if you made it level 3 I think it would be a lot different. That said, max damage ranged probably goes to a variant human or custom lineage Rogue with a heavy crossbow if you assume Sneak Attack is "static" --Heavy Crossbow (1d10 + dex) ---16 dex (1d10 + 3) ---Human Variant/custom lineage Feat: Sharpshooter +10 (1d10 + 13) --- sneak attack (1d6) DPR Range 15 - [B]29 DPR Average: 22[/B] also a Warlock with GWM and a 16 strength running hex can beat the forge cleric for multiple fight MAX Melee DPR [B]Multiple Fight [U]Max[/U] Melee DPR[/B] (using a concentration spell, Limited Repeatable) Human Variant/custom Warlock (any patron) ---Great Sword (2d6 + str) ---16 Str (2d6 + 3) ---Human Variant Feat: Great Weapon Master +10 (2d6 + 13) ---Hex +1d6 (2d6 + 1d6 + 13) Range (16-[B]31[/B]) Average 23.5 Note despite the same average for a normal hit, the warlock does 1 hp more damage on a crit and therefore wins this as a tie breaker. Of course it is important to point out these (and the rest of the examples) are a white room build. We are ignoring attack rolls here and assuming every attack hits. If you consider attack rolls the damage is far less "in the real world". [/QUOTE]

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