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<blockquote data-quote="Nagol" data-source="post: 6309881" data-attributes="member: 23935">In 1E the most heavily-optimised Fighter I saw was a dwarf who used Wish to become 6'1&quot;, acquired a Hammer of Thunderbolts, Gauntlets of Ogre Power, and had a Girdle of Giant Strength (Fire) commissioned.&nbsp; That increased his to-hit bonus by a net of +12.&nbsp; Typically, he fought under the effects of Prayer for an additional +1 giving him +13 for a&nbsp; typical bonus in a serious combat.By contrast, my last 3.5 core-only campaign had a Dwarf Fighter/Dwarven Defender with weapon focus, +3 dwarven war axe, Strength of 32 (22 base Strength, Girdle of Giant Strength + 6, , +4 inherent bonus to strength) for a net bonus of +15 before other effects increased it (typically running effects included morale bonus +4, haste +1, +2 from using dwarven defender strength boost, +2 situational modifier (flanking)) giving a +24 for a&nbsp; typical bonus in a serious combat.&nbsp; The only other thing to note is he typically took a penalty of around -12 from Power Attack in order to increase damage since the to-hit far exceeded his foe's AC.&nbsp; That dropped his net bonus back to +12 or about that of the 1E Fighter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nagol, post: 6309881, member: 23935"] In 1E the most heavily-optimised Fighter I saw was a dwarf who used [I]Wish[/I] to become 6'1", acquired a [I]Hammer of Thunderbolts[/I], [I]Gauntlets of Ogre Power[/I], and had a [I]Girdle of Giant Strength (Fire)[/I] commissioned. That increased his to-hit bonus by a net of +12. Typically, he fought under the effects of [I]Prayer[/I] for an additional +1 giving him +13 for a typical bonus in a serious combat. By contrast, my last 3.5 core-only campaign had a Dwarf Fighter/Dwarven Defender with weapon focus, +3 dwarven war axe, Strength of 32 (22 base Strength, Girdle of Giant Strength + 6, , +4 inherent bonus to strength) for a net bonus of +15 before other effects increased it (typically running effects included morale bonus +4, haste +1, +2 from using dwarven defender strength boost, +2 situational modifier (flanking)) giving a +24 for a typical bonus in a serious combat. The only other thing to note is he typically took a penalty of around -12 from Power Attack in order to increase damage since the to-hit far exceeded his foe's AC. That dropped his net bonus back to +12 or about that of the 1E Fighter. [/QUOTE]

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