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<blockquote data-quote="CanadienneBacon" data-source="post: 6533885" data-attributes="member: 11146">Generally, the less rolling I have to do, the happier I am.&nbsp; I view Performance as a skill almost purely tied to the bardic tradition; very few classes outside of Bard are going to make use of Performance.&nbsp; Performance, in my mind, indicates how well the character plays her instrument, dances, or delivers his oratory.&nbsp; It's an indicator of technical skill that is simultaneously aesthetically pleasing to the listener.&nbsp; Conversely, Persuasion is a skill that tends to be used by a broader assortment of characters.&nbsp; Persuasion is &quot;diplomacy,&quot; for lack of a better word.&nbsp; It's a social skill relied on when attempting to sway another to one's point of view.Is there an element of persuasion to a good performance?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; And there's an element of performance in any good persuasive tactic (packaging, argument, strategery in presentation of idea/s).&nbsp; Regardless, Performance and Persuasion are two separate skills, at least in my mind.&nbsp; I think you should keep them separate proficiencies.&nbsp; That said, I don't feel particularly strongly about this issue.&nbsp; It's fine with me if you choose to conflate Performance and Persuasion into one skill we call Persuasion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CanadienneBacon, post: 6533885, member: 11146"] Generally, the less rolling I have to do, the happier I am. I view Performance as a skill almost purely tied to the bardic tradition; very few classes outside of Bard are going to make use of Performance. Performance, in my mind, indicates how well the character plays her instrument, dances, or delivers his oratory. It's an indicator of technical skill that is simultaneously aesthetically pleasing to the listener. Conversely, Persuasion is a skill that tends to be used by a broader assortment of characters. Persuasion is "diplomacy," for lack of a better word. It's a social skill relied on when attempting to sway another to one's point of view. Is there an element of persuasion to a good performance? Sure. And there's an element of performance in any good persuasive tactic (packaging, argument, strategery in presentation of idea/s). Regardless, Performance and Persuasion are two separate skills, at least in my mind. I think you should keep them separate proficiencies. That said, I don't feel particularly strongly about this issue. It's fine with me if you choose to conflate Performance and Persuasion into one skill we call Persuasion. [/QUOTE]

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