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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5874730" data-attributes="member: 92305">Let me clarify. Even in the Conan RPG, a barbarian in a loincloth really isn't as near as effective as a foe wearing a breastplate.  I'm not saying the game should allow that to happen (although, in my zest to make the point, it looks like I am saying that in the OP).  Hell, when he can, Conan wears armor in Howard's stories. The point I am trying to make is that I'd like to see, in 5E, it be a viable alternative to not wear armor--to have a decent chance of surviving not wearing armor. In D&D, as it stands now, a fighter could never survive long with no armor because he's be considered AC 10 (or so) and too easily damaged. I want 5E to have a way that a swashbuckler in a cloak, a barbarian in a loincloth, and a dueler wearing a baggy pirate shirt, carrying a foil, all have a decent chance of surviving adventures.  I want that type of character--the no armor character--to be a playable choice. I don't expect the character type to be able to be as good, toe-to-toe with a heavily armored chap.  But, I want there to be advantaged and disadvantages to wearing armor.  If you decide not to wear armor--and the thief might--then you've still got a decent AC via the character's DEX and Dodging bonuses.</blockquote>