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<blockquote data-quote="RLBURNSIDE" data-source="post: 5583516" data-attributes="member: 94650"><p><strong>most of you</strong></p><p></p><p>hit upon the real solution, but don't take that extra step and realize : D&D now belongs to us, the fans. Not metaphorically, but in every way. They make a paycheck from it, we spend our paychecks and many of our free-time (and even working hours) thinking about it. This gets us in trouble with our spouses, makes us late for work, or sleepy at work, all sorts of things.</p><p></p><p>Wizards may create a 5th edition, and it may even be good, but with DND Insider and Errata, I will never, ever, ever devote as much time as I did with 4e with "mother-may-I" online-only software looking over our gaming table to make sure there are no house rules on our character sheets and we are obeying their lame-nerf-du-jour or OP idiocy. </p><p></p><p>LFR standardization put a stranglehold on DMs, players, and the entire game. Home games are even forced to play by errata, due to the way the fact that if you play in a group where the DM likes to use the online builder to keep track of everyone's character, you have no choice but to follow their latest debauched character-killing over-reach. This is not fun. I can't count how many times over the past three years this has happened, where players were so disappointed and forced to rebuild. This disruption is worse than "mother-may-I". It's "holy mary mother-of-god wtf is wizards doing to us". Instead of that warlorck daily with the ping-pong effect being fixed, it gets nerfed into oblivion and ...actually, WE are the ones being ping-ponged. And we pay for it. Repeatedly.</p><p></p><p>This is the definition of insanity. Don't expect that pattern to stop, expect it to continue, and to get worse, the more control they exert over us with such things as VTT and so on. What happens when you're playing a D&D virtual game in 5e, and they add some BS sweating filter to their "family values" app? Think it can't happen? Think again! These companies LOVE to own their customers, to control them.</p><p></p><p>The only solution is to make our own system, owned by all of us and no one. Like Free Software : Free Gaming. They can sell us books and so on, but we control the builder. We control the errata schedule, and how to fix broken things. Even better, we can do it on a case-by-case basis. The fact is, Wizards has an inordinate amount of control over aspects of our gaming sessions that THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS being involved in.</p><p></p><p>What right do they have to kill your epic level character, when you're close to finishing the campaign and the DM didn't house rule it? With a user-controlled delivery system, we can say : the NEXT campaign, this is how turn undead will work. Not right now. Or you can decide that jointly with your DM. </p><p></p><p>The fact that they haven't added any house rule functionality in the builder thus far is telling. House rules and home games are bad for their business model : which is for us to pay for things we don't want or need, repeatedly, such as idiotic errata pulling the rug out from under your feet. </p><p></p><p>Imagine RIGHT in the middle of your monopoly game, the company rep comes into your house uninvited, tells you Boardwalk is now Baltic Ave., and thank you very much for your subscription, you may continue playing now...too bad all your pieces are now on junk property. There goes the neighbourhood.</p><p></p><p>The only solution to this mess is to take the power back. Make a community 5e, call it something similar, and make it awesome, kick-ass, whatever we want...I will volunteer my programming services as will probably tons of others here. I make MMOs for a living and have fifteen years programming experience, and I live, breathe, and dream D&D. </p><p></p><p>aside : Isn't the copyright expired yet? We should be able to call our game D&D, to hell with Wizards. Register it in a country with fair laws that weren't written by Disney Corporation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RLBURNSIDE, post: 5583516, member: 94650"] [b]most of you[/b] hit upon the real solution, but don't take that extra step and realize : D&D now belongs to us, the fans. Not metaphorically, but in every way. They make a paycheck from it, we spend our paychecks and many of our free-time (and even working hours) thinking about it. This gets us in trouble with our spouses, makes us late for work, or sleepy at work, all sorts of things. Wizards may create a 5th edition, and it may even be good, but with DND Insider and Errata, I will never, ever, ever devote as much time as I did with 4e with "mother-may-I" online-only software looking over our gaming table to make sure there are no house rules on our character sheets and we are obeying their lame-nerf-du-jour or OP idiocy. LFR standardization put a stranglehold on DMs, players, and the entire game. Home games are even forced to play by errata, due to the way the fact that if you play in a group where the DM likes to use the online builder to keep track of everyone's character, you have no choice but to follow their latest debauched character-killing over-reach. This is not fun. I can't count how many times over the past three years this has happened, where players were so disappointed and forced to rebuild. This disruption is worse than "mother-may-I". It's "holy mary mother-of-god wtf is wizards doing to us". Instead of that warlorck daily with the ping-pong effect being fixed, it gets nerfed into oblivion and ...actually, WE are the ones being ping-ponged. And we pay for it. Repeatedly. This is the definition of insanity. Don't expect that pattern to stop, expect it to continue, and to get worse, the more control they exert over us with such things as VTT and so on. What happens when you're playing a D&D virtual game in 5e, and they add some BS sweating filter to their "family values" app? Think it can't happen? Think again! These companies LOVE to own their customers, to control them. The only solution is to make our own system, owned by all of us and no one. Like Free Software : Free Gaming. They can sell us books and so on, but we control the builder. We control the errata schedule, and how to fix broken things. Even better, we can do it on a case-by-case basis. The fact is, Wizards has an inordinate amount of control over aspects of our gaming sessions that THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS being involved in. What right do they have to kill your epic level character, when you're close to finishing the campaign and the DM didn't house rule it? With a user-controlled delivery system, we can say : the NEXT campaign, this is how turn undead will work. Not right now. Or you can decide that jointly with your DM. The fact that they haven't added any house rule functionality in the builder thus far is telling. House rules and home games are bad for their business model : which is for us to pay for things we don't want or need, repeatedly, such as idiotic errata pulling the rug out from under your feet. Imagine RIGHT in the middle of your monopoly game, the company rep comes into your house uninvited, tells you Boardwalk is now Baltic Ave., and thank you very much for your subscription, you may continue playing now...too bad all your pieces are now on junk property. There goes the neighbourhood. The only solution to this mess is to take the power back. Make a community 5e, call it something similar, and make it awesome, kick-ass, whatever we want...I will volunteer my programming services as will probably tons of others here. I make MMOs for a living and have fifteen years programming experience, and I live, breathe, and dream D&D. aside : Isn't the copyright expired yet? We should be able to call our game D&D, to hell with Wizards. Register it in a country with fair laws that weren't written by Disney Corporation. [/QUOTE]
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