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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannager" data-source="post: 5588246" data-attributes="member: 73683">Then that's a shame for those people, but quite frankly if they're not playing D&D first and foremost because it's a fun way to get together with friends and experience the story of an adventurer who spends his or her time slaying monsters, exploring dungeons and looting treasures, you're probably better off playing a different RPG rather than complaining that the Big RPG On Campus doesn't cater to your exact playstyle. D&D is not the RPG-for-all-people. The decision by the guys at WotC to accept that fact and just make the best damn game possible when it comes to what makes up the core of the D&D experience was one of the smartest moves in the development of 4e.Not really. I just spent a few seconds thinking about it.So you'd prefer to take a single sentence, extrapolate meaning from it beyond that which the speaker intended, and draw conclusions based on it without allowing the speaker to explain for himself? And I'm the one misrepresenting Wyatt?Isn't it cool that 4e provides you with those stats?And that's fine, but those systems do exist, and they do have their fans (skill challenges are mediocre as written but are easily improved; rituals are totally awesome and if they are less than awesome in your game you need to integrate them in your game better as a DM).Soooooo... "What I want out of D&D is more important than what the industry professionals - whose job it is to know what their potential customers want out of D&D - think your average D&D player wants out of D&D."Again, if you are looking for a game that is, at its core, about being able to chat up the faerie king, there are other games that do that better. There are not, however, other games that do getting together with your friends to kill nasty monsters, explore dangerous dungeons, and loot mythical treasure hoards better. And, thankfully, D&D lets you do all those things and can accommodate the occasional foray into the faerie world to have a sit-down with their king if the need arises.</blockquote>

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