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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9755309" data-attributes="member: 6796468">It's definitely up there, yeah. So is the 3 Up 3 Down. I'm just saying make it core.As far as DDB goes, yeah, that'd suck. But this would be a 6th edition, and therefore need it's own autoroller website! (Or not, if you wanna just check the rolled value and add in the missing damage if there is any)I suppose 12 would be fine, I just don't wanna go lower than 10.Can definitely understand the trepidation. I also -really- like the idea of using Skill Checks instead of Attack Rolls to clean things up a little, now that you mention it.And having the 'ritual-like' castings rely on skill checks, as well, really makes the "Avoid Obstacle" spells into just kinda collapsing various skill checks into a single proficiency, which I -really- like as a concept, if nothing else.I particularly like it for Clerics and Wizards. Both of whom could be automatically proficient in the Liturgical and Mystical languages as the basis of their ritual-like casting...Could split the difference and have some specific stuff be bundled into class-tracks (Illusion, Necromancy, Etc) which unlock new uses of the bundle when you level up to represent 'spells' of that school, with rituals and skill checks to see if you can accomplish the goal, and have that be separate from the more esoteric and weird magic that gets squished down into class abilities.I used the 4e name for convenience's sake for a D&D specific subforum. Personally I prefer "Marshal" or "Captain".Yeah, my idea was closer to the monk with around 4-5 different maneuvers over the course of leveling based on which martial tradition you picked, with classes being limited to specific packages except for Fighters who can pick any package.Plus the ability to retrain packages as a downtime activity. With 10 levels there's just not enough room for the A5e martial traditions.On the one hand, sure. On the other: How many crits is a player character going to be taking between long rests? Probably one or two outside of the most unluckiest players out there. (Murph, I'm looking at you.)Even better: We can -design-.I get that, though it tends to result in knife-edge levels of panic-play which isn't fun for a great number of more casual folks.Cool!So a lot like Daggerheart's progression system but not the -same-. I can dig it. Probably not what I'd do for a theoretical 6e, to stick with sacred cows like XP and Class Levels, but it is neat.Hmmm... I wonder if I could break out aspects of levels and do a DDO sort of "Partial Leveling" structure where you have lower XP thresholds to gain specific aspects of your class's next level before you get there...But then it just feels like you have a level 20 game and half your levels are "Gain HP" or "Proficiency Bonus Increases" or something similar.Honestly, years ago, when I was hanging around with an MMO developer he hit me with a massively important question: Why roll Damage if you're already rolling to Attack?You're doubling the amount of time waiting for the dice to stop moving. It makes more sense if all weapons deal set damage and you're only rolling to see how well you did on the attack itself. -Or- assume every attack hits and then only roll damage. In either case play is streamlined.So having weapons do 3-8 damage, plus modifiers, and Sneak Attack or Hex adds +4 damage per die where Smite adds +5 per die makes way more sense. And then crits just become "Double your Damage Value" which you determined in advance through set numbers.Rapier: 5 damageDex: 3 damageMagic: 1 damageSneak Attack: 12 damageYou've already got the 9 in your Rapier slot, just add 12 to it for a total of 21 when you sneak attack. On a crit it's 18 or 42 if it's a Sneak Attack.MASSIVELY EASIER.But. Folks -love- rolling a mess of d6s for their Fireballs so...... huh. That could be an additional line of separation between Martial and Magical characters. And Martial and Magical weaponry if you only rolled any added damage. So a Flametongue longsword would be 5+Str+Magic+2d6 Fire.... interesting thought, that. Fighty types get to roll lots of d20s. Magic types roll way fewer attacks but roll their damage?</blockquote>

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