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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7805568" data-attributes="member: 6919838">Just the frequency of AoE damage is often enough. I mean being inside the spirit guardians radius of the enemy cleric and getting one magic missle out of the swarm ought to be of serious concern to many players who dont fear dropping to zero.This of course depends on campaign but frankly, it's rare in my games for deadly situation like PCs at zero to be occurring in the "it's a dumb brute adverssry" encounters. The cases where PCs tend to get to zero are when they are fighting adversaries eith magic snd resources at their hands as well, so, on going area effects and multi-target effects are not only present but also raise the stakes on going zero. So, in my gsmes and in my ecperience the going to zero then heal up is a serious risk in most of the encounters where it is even an issue. It's a serious risk of going dead. I imagine for games ehere somehow the party or characters is put en prise by non-magic brutes with regularity would feel differently.</blockquote>