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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 9413730" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>I believe human creative thought consists mostly of the following:</p><p></p><p>a) Spotting connections between seemingly unrelated things.</p><p>b) Discerning previously undetected patterns.</p><p>c) Testing these connections and patterns to determine which are valid and useful, and which are spurious or dead ends.</p><p>d) Hooking up those insights to existing knowledge to produce something of functional and/or aesthetic value.</p><p></p><p>In addition, there is an ancillary skill:</p><p></p><p>e) Communicating your insights in a way that other people can understand.</p><p></p><p>That last item is not strictly required for creative thought, but sure is helpful if you want your work to have any real impact, or to make you any money. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Neural networks in general have made substantial progress on a) and b), and LLMs have done astonishing work on e). The big missing pieces right now are c) and d). These rely on a kind of broad holistic understanding that humans develop through decades of living in the world and doing stuff, which is extremely hard to reproduce using today's machine learning techniques.</p><p></p><p>It's worth noting also that c) and d) are the parts routinely overlooked by people who are enamored with the idea of being Creative! Thinkers! without having to actually, you know, do anything hard. I suspect there is a connection here, but I haven't yet decided if it's valid and useful, and I certainly haven't found any functional or aesthetic value in it except a vague sense of smug superiority.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 9413730, member: 58197"] I believe human creative thought consists mostly of the following: a) Spotting connections between seemingly unrelated things. b) Discerning previously undetected patterns. c) Testing these connections and patterns to determine which are valid and useful, and which are spurious or dead ends. d) Hooking up those insights to existing knowledge to produce something of functional and/or aesthetic value. In addition, there is an ancillary skill: e) Communicating your insights in a way that other people can understand. That last item is not strictly required for creative thought, but sure is helpful if you want your work to have any real impact, or to make you any money. :) Neural networks in general have made substantial progress on a) and b), and LLMs have done astonishing work on e). The big missing pieces right now are c) and d). These rely on a kind of broad holistic understanding that humans develop through decades of living in the world and doing stuff, which is extremely hard to reproduce using today's machine learning techniques. It's worth noting also that c) and d) are the parts routinely overlooked by people who are enamored with the idea of being Creative! Thinkers! without having to actually, you know, do anything hard. I suspect there is a connection here, but I haven't yet decided if it's valid and useful, and I certainly haven't found any functional or aesthetic value in it except a vague sense of smug superiority. [/QUOTE]
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