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<blockquote data-quote="The Fighter-Cricket" data-source="post: 7756645" data-attributes="member: 32852"><p>You are right. What I tried to call a discussion about respect is (when we go deeper into the rabbit hole) a discussion about who holds power over whom in history and in recent times. Colonized people were exactly that: European states decided to exploit more far away places and make lives very hard for those who lived there. The Europeans had extreme power over them. </p><p></p><p>Today there still is no balance. Western states hold most of the riches in the world, while other countries struggle due to quite complex economic and political situations they are in. And people who live in the west but are from non-western descent also struggle to catch up to make a living in their western (home) countries. </p><p></p><p>So yes, ultimately it is about who has more power (in a global political sense of the word). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I'm not sure what people you have in mind who might disrespect European history. And we are also quite the diverse lot. So there are a lot of different European histories to disrespect. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hm. Wouldn't you say that a victim has a higher moral standing than an attacker? Because, you know, by definition the attacker did something wrong against his victim. That sound quite clear for me when it comes to moral standing. And I think that should be an universal moral common ground. Not only in our current society. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Going back to the discussion about cultural appropriation I'd like to say that I don't think that using parts of other cultures is per se a bad thing. If all of us would only stick to that what our own cultures do, that would be isolationist and quite boring. Culture had always been about contact. People move to other places, share food, share stories and so on. That's how most of the nice things we have came into being (like D&D). So taking and using parts of another person's culture is not the same as cultural appropriation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Fighter-Cricket, post: 7756645, member: 32852"] You are right. What I tried to call a discussion about respect is (when we go deeper into the rabbit hole) a discussion about who holds power over whom in history and in recent times. Colonized people were exactly that: European states decided to exploit more far away places and make lives very hard for those who lived there. The Europeans had extreme power over them. Today there still is no balance. Western states hold most of the riches in the world, while other countries struggle due to quite complex economic and political situations they are in. And people who live in the west but are from non-western descent also struggle to catch up to make a living in their western (home) countries. So yes, ultimately it is about who has more power (in a global political sense of the word). Well, I'm not sure what people you have in mind who might disrespect European history. And we are also quite the diverse lot. So there are a lot of different European histories to disrespect. ;) Hm. Wouldn't you say that a victim has a higher moral standing than an attacker? Because, you know, by definition the attacker did something wrong against his victim. That sound quite clear for me when it comes to moral standing. And I think that should be an universal moral common ground. Not only in our current society. Going back to the discussion about cultural appropriation I'd like to say that I don't think that using parts of other cultures is per se a bad thing. If all of us would only stick to that what our own cultures do, that would be isolationist and quite boring. Culture had always been about contact. People move to other places, share food, share stories and so on. That's how most of the nice things we have came into being (like D&D). So taking and using parts of another person's culture is not the same as cultural appropriation. [/QUOTE]
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