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<blockquote data-quote="The Fighter-Cricket" data-source="post: 7756664" data-attributes="member: 32852"><p>Ah, first, I didn't know that stating the fact of "The greatest amount of wealth on our planet is accumulated in the what we call "western countries" whereas many former colonized countries have disproportionally lower living standards" is politicizing. I didn't want to proselytize or annoy. I just wanted to contribute to the discussion about cultural appropriation. And without talking about the basis of the whole problem of what you called "power", it will be quite hard to discuss this thing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Warhammer's Old World has been designed by some clever British dudes. It's meant as a satire of the European late Middle Ages and early Renaissance mixed with Dwarves, Orcs, and Chaos Gods. From a more radical point of view of cultural appropriation that would be okay, because they were/are British and are tounge-in-cheek about their own culture (Britain here being a part of the wider European history). I'm not so familiar with 7th Sea, but I guess it's similiar. </p><p></p><p>About transforming or making caricatures of religious symbols: You know there are quite a lot of complaints about "mocking" or at least using Christian images in an unorthodox manner? Ask your nearest evangelical denomination if they are cool with D&D's angels and demons. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, and let me tell you something about Oktoberfest (the original one in Munich)</p><p></p><p>1.) Usually it begins in mid September and ends in the first days of October. Therefore it is hardly an october-fest. </p><p></p><p>2.) The Oktoberfest is, in my opinion, not a folk fair or anything traditional but a noisy, overcrowded drink-till-you-throw-up-palooza for over 6 million non-Bavarians or teens on holidays in continental Europe who are okay with paying 13 € for a litre of beer and feel "authentic" because they wear Lederhosen. If other parts of the world want to have that, let them have it - I do not envy them. Maybe their Oktoberfests are better then the one in Munich.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Fighter-Cricket, post: 7756664, member: 32852"] Ah, first, I didn't know that stating the fact of "The greatest amount of wealth on our planet is accumulated in the what we call "western countries" whereas many former colonized countries have disproportionally lower living standards" is politicizing. I didn't want to proselytize or annoy. I just wanted to contribute to the discussion about cultural appropriation. And without talking about the basis of the whole problem of what you called "power", it will be quite hard to discuss this thing. Warhammer's Old World has been designed by some clever British dudes. It's meant as a satire of the European late Middle Ages and early Renaissance mixed with Dwarves, Orcs, and Chaos Gods. From a more radical point of view of cultural appropriation that would be okay, because they were/are British and are tounge-in-cheek about their own culture (Britain here being a part of the wider European history). I'm not so familiar with 7th Sea, but I guess it's similiar. About transforming or making caricatures of religious symbols: You know there are quite a lot of complaints about "mocking" or at least using Christian images in an unorthodox manner? Ask your nearest evangelical denomination if they are cool with D&D's angels and demons. :) Oh, and let me tell you something about Oktoberfest (the original one in Munich) 1.) Usually it begins in mid September and ends in the first days of October. Therefore it is hardly an october-fest. 2.) The Oktoberfest is, in my opinion, not a folk fair or anything traditional but a noisy, overcrowded drink-till-you-throw-up-palooza for over 6 million non-Bavarians or teens on holidays in continental Europe who are okay with paying 13 € for a litre of beer and feel "authentic" because they wear Lederhosen. If other parts of the world want to have that, let them have it - I do not envy them. Maybe their Oktoberfests are better then the one in Munich. [/QUOTE]
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