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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 5345037" data-attributes="member: 11300">In the long run... possibly.- The statistical basis for the survey might be weak - but the mere fact that Pathfinder and D&D have been placed upon an equal sales footing for the first time by "someone" is significant. The fact that there is seemingly no better public measuring stick should also be noted.- The folks over at Paizo are certainly celebrating so the result is certainly significant for them.- Perhaps this result gives some measure of evidence that the 2E/3E split and the 3E/4E split are significantly different and not just due to the interwebs. While 4E has pleased many players, it also left many players in the cold. This is something that more than anything depresses me. 4e split my group down the middle with only a few (including myself) willing to play both versions. The edition wars between 3e/4e is perhaps the worst thing that has happened to D&D.- And on that from the PHB 4E:- It would seem that the 4e lifecycle has been psuedo-planned for the term of a decade. With Essentials now out acting in a similar way to the 3.5 revision, I wonder how much life 4e has left in it. Will it make the hoped for decade of play? - If Pathfinder continues to take a significant chunk out of D&D's marketshare, hopefully a 5e will seek to unite the players once more. The different design philosophy that was the cornerstone of 4e will hopefully be ratcheted back a few steps in a future edition, being more inclusive of all players. Again if Pathfinder continues to take a significant chunk out of D&D's marketshare is it fair enough to say that the D&D designers zigged when they should have zagged. Is it fair enough to say that 4e is not living up to what is expected of an edition of Dungeons & Dragons?- And in regards to competition being good, I'm not so sure. If Paizo and D&D were competing on the same turf and edition, then I would say for sure. But as it is, I cannot help but feel that survey shows the split is growing. The vitriol has died down but the scars are still there.So while some will ignore this result, others will flash their fanboy credentials, and others will ponder what it means, my hope is that it will change the quality of game at my table by forcing a new edition sooner than planned that gets my full gaming group back together again. For all its good points and bad, perhaps 4e's greatest asset will be its legacy to the edition that follows it.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

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