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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 5345453" data-attributes="member: 20741">Wow.  I love the ignoring of the post from Lisa Stevens that explains all of this and puts it into context – and confirms it.   Don’t you think that might be an important element? Isn’t that a gem that ought to be put into the hopper as well?   Lisa Stevens, CEO of Paizo posted yesterday on the Paizo forums that ICV2’s report jibes with Paizo’s sense of the market and their place within it as well. Lisa goes on to note that they have excellent hardcaore data on PRECISELY how well 4E’s and their own sales are performing at the Big Box book stores as well as Amazon. For those in the know and up to date on how that market works, they’ll know that Lisa ought to know those  numbers with precision and why hose hard sales numbers on titles and sales volume is available to Paizo.  Lisa Stevens also knows her own subscriber sales to customers on Paizo – to the penny – and has a very good guesstimate of the amount of DDI subscribers as well, given the way that WotC accounts for  those subscribers on their own forum member totals (not as clear as to the income generated from those subscribers given variable monthly rates—but as a ballpark # of subscribers?  – it’s good enough).  In short, blah blah blah “this is all anecdotal and I don’t believe it” runs up against a relatively information rich CEO’s  opinion which in effect says" And that data tells us that icV2 is pretty much right on".   So you’ve got designers and developers and the publisher <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/general/pathfinderIsTiedFor1stCongratsToPaizo&page=3" target="_blank">jumping into the thread</a> and clearly basking in the warm and sweet glow of market success.  Victory in a market competition like this is extremely sweet and to many, unlooked for. Clearly, the ICV2 third quarter report was not a report which Paizo was dismissing or treating as a “rogue poll”.  Their reaction to it was one of elation, exoneration and confirmation. High fives and a forty dollar steak time.  Contrast that with what emerges from many posters here? I’d characterize that fairly and dispassionately as sour grapes.  Whatever the personal motives for individuals’ posting in the manner that some have chosen to, the overall impression such expressed doubts and misgivings leave is one of putting fingers in both of your ears and singing loudly so that you can ignore an event that does not accord with your personal preferences.</blockquote>

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