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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5346129" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>I'm sorry you're so angry, but I won't get into this anymore with you, Azgulor, except to address one outright lie on your part. I am curious about what you mean by my supposed "large # of pro-WotC threads." The only thing I can think of that could at all be viewed as "pro-WotC' was <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/293968-if-paizo-can-why-cant-wizards-coast.html" target="_blank">this thread</a>. I also wrote a variety of threads and posts in which I was expressing an opinion that 4E, like Pathfinder and other editions of D&D, is a valid, real form of D&D. But a "large # of pro-WotC threads"? Hardly. Furthermore, if you read my posts you will realize that if I am pro-WotC, I am also pro-Paizo. </p><p></p><p>This is exactly the type of tactic I was calling you out on and which you turned around and enacted on me: trying to push someone into an oppositional, pro-WotC/4E stance, even when they don't feel strongly either way (such as myself), and then outright lying about what I have said or written in the past. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I look forward to seeing what they come up with (and will probably buy it). As I said in my post above, I really like what I have seen from Paizo and they seem to really embody a company run by gamers for gamers. I don't mean to bag on WotC, but something seems lost in the shuffle, but more on this in another thread that I'd like to start.</p><p></p><p>I think Pathfinder especially could benefit from this sort of simple, core game and set because of the daunting nature of the Pathfinder Rule Book to a newbie (almost six hundred pages!). It seems that Paizo's initial intention was not to try to market to newbies, but to 3.5 players and possibly lapsed players; now that they are more successful than even they could have imagined, they're going for more. I do admire this and wish them well. I still think, however, that the overall health of the hobby is largely dependent upon how D&D does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5346129, member: 59082"] I'm sorry you're so angry, but I won't get into this anymore with you, Azgulor, except to address one outright lie on your part. I am curious about what you mean by my supposed "large # of pro-WotC threads." The only thing I can think of that could at all be viewed as "pro-WotC' was [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/293968-if-paizo-can-why-cant-wizards-coast.html"]this thread[/URL]. I also wrote a variety of threads and posts in which I was expressing an opinion that 4E, like Pathfinder and other editions of D&D, is a valid, real form of D&D. But a "large # of pro-WotC threads"? Hardly. Furthermore, if you read my posts you will realize that if I am pro-WotC, I am also pro-Paizo. This is exactly the type of tactic I was calling you out on and which you turned around and enacted on me: trying to push someone into an oppositional, pro-WotC/4E stance, even when they don't feel strongly either way (such as myself), and then outright lying about what I have said or written in the past. I look forward to seeing what they come up with (and will probably buy it). As I said in my post above, I really like what I have seen from Paizo and they seem to really embody a company run by gamers for gamers. I don't mean to bag on WotC, but something seems lost in the shuffle, but more on this in another thread that I'd like to start. I think Pathfinder especially could benefit from this sort of simple, core game and set because of the daunting nature of the Pathfinder Rule Book to a newbie (almost six hundred pages!). It seems that Paizo's initial intention was not to try to market to newbies, but to 3.5 players and possibly lapsed players; now that they are more successful than even they could have imagined, they're going for more. I do admire this and wish them well. I still think, however, that the overall health of the hobby is largely dependent upon how D&D does. [/QUOTE]
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