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<blockquote data-quote="ggroy" data-source="post: 5346900" data-attributes="member: 83805"><p>At this point in time (and near future) with the present state of the economy, I don't know if Paizo could even get such a large loan to purchase the D&D brand from Hasbro.</p><p></p><p>Judging by <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/about/contact" target="_blank">Paizo's contact list</a>, there's around 25 employees listed, which would place it in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_business" target="_blank">small business</a> (or medium sized business) category. (Paizo most likely has more employees which are not listed, such as people working in their warehouse and online store). Small businesses have been having a <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/12/smallbusiness/small_business_credit_crunch/index.htm" target="_blank">hard time getting bank loans in recent years</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's also other considerations in such a transaction, regardless of who becomes the new owner of the D&D brand (whether Paizo, Mongoose, Cubicle 7, Steve Jackson Games, etc ...). For example:</p><p></p><p>- Are there any outstanding legal disputes directly involving D&D?</p><p></p><p>- Are the present WotC D&D employees being kept on board at their present salaries and benefits, after the sale of the D&D brand? Or are they all being fired, once the sale goes through? The new management may want to start off with a "clean slate", by removing most or all remnants of the previous regime. The new management will most likely be egotistical enough to want to design a new edition of D&D according to their own personal "vision", similar to what happened after WotC acquired TSR. Since they are the new owners of D&D, they get to call the shots.</p><p></p><p>- Will the subsequent owners of D&D still have Random House as their distributor in the book trade business? If Random House does not stay on board, how much less valuable will the D&D property be?</p><p></p><p>- More generally, will Hasbro/WotC sell the D&D novels division or will they hang on to it? In a situation where WotC declines to sell the D&D novels division, how will the new owners of D&D manage canon for the settings (ie. Forgotten Realms, etc ...)? Will the D&D game settings be made completely non-canon and independent from the novels, regardless of any "world changing events" featured in future novels?</p><p></p><p>In principle, Hasbro/WotC could sell the D&D brand without selling some of the D&D settings IP. In such a scenario, Forgotten Realms, Eberron, Dragonlance, etc ... could just become pure WotC novel lines, with no corresponding rpg products made by WotC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ggroy, post: 5346900, member: 83805"] At this point in time (and near future) with the present state of the economy, I don't know if Paizo could even get such a large loan to purchase the D&D brand from Hasbro. Judging by [URL="http://paizo.com/paizo/about/contact"]Paizo's contact list[/URL], there's around 25 employees listed, which would place it in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_business"]small business[/URL] (or medium sized business) category. (Paizo most likely has more employees which are not listed, such as people working in their warehouse and online store). Small businesses have been having a [URL="http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/12/smallbusiness/small_business_credit_crunch/index.htm"]hard time getting bank loans in recent years[/URL]. There's also other considerations in such a transaction, regardless of who becomes the new owner of the D&D brand (whether Paizo, Mongoose, Cubicle 7, Steve Jackson Games, etc ...). For example: - Are there any outstanding legal disputes directly involving D&D? - Are the present WotC D&D employees being kept on board at their present salaries and benefits, after the sale of the D&D brand? Or are they all being fired, once the sale goes through? The new management may want to start off with a "clean slate", by removing most or all remnants of the previous regime. The new management will most likely be egotistical enough to want to design a new edition of D&D according to their own personal "vision", similar to what happened after WotC acquired TSR. Since they are the new owners of D&D, they get to call the shots. - Will the subsequent owners of D&D still have Random House as their distributor in the book trade business? If Random House does not stay on board, how much less valuable will the D&D property be? - More generally, will Hasbro/WotC sell the D&D novels division or will they hang on to it? In a situation where WotC declines to sell the D&D novels division, how will the new owners of D&D manage canon for the settings (ie. Forgotten Realms, etc ...)? Will the D&D game settings be made completely non-canon and independent from the novels, regardless of any "world changing events" featured in future novels? In principle, Hasbro/WotC could sell the D&D brand without selling some of the D&D settings IP. In such a scenario, Forgotten Realms, Eberron, Dragonlance, etc ... could just become pure WotC novel lines, with no corresponding rpg products made by WotC. [/QUOTE]
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