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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 7941289" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>The death rate in areas where the health care system is overwealmed by the number of cases is consistently 4% or higher.</p><p></p><p>Go ahead, find me one.</p><p></p><p>Death rates where it isn't overwealmed? In the ballpark of 1%.</p><p></p><p>There are mild cases. But "mild" includes "anyone who doesn't need Oxygen to survive". It also includes someone completely asymptomatic.</p><p></p><p>Mild: Doesn't need O2 suppliment. ~85% of cases.</p><p>Moderate: Doesn't need respirator or more. ~10% of cases.</p><p>Severe: Needs a respirator. ~5% of cases.</p><p></p><p>Italy stats:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099375/coronavirus-cases-by-region-in-italy/[/URL]</p><p>^ cases by region</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099389/coronavirus-deaths-by-region-in-italy/[/URL]</p><p>^ deaths by region</p><p></p><p><strong>DIVIDE</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Some regions are approaching 10%.</p><p></p><p>Look in Wuhan. It had a high rate there, and low in the rest of China. A big difference? Hospitals overwealmed.</p><p></p><p>Many (NOT most, many) people who get this survive with intensive medical intervention. Without that intervention, they die; we don't put people on Respirators for <strong>fun</strong>. Hospital capacity for this intervention isn't high - the US has something like 60k beds, most of them in use, and can probably cobble together a few more using gear used for surgery.</p><p></p><p>If you have 30k beds assigned to this, * 20 is 600k -- with more than 600k sick, you lose the ability to use those beds for new patients. And these beds don't teleport and neither do patients; so any one area with too many sick runs out.</p><p></p><p>They are letting people drown in their own lungs in Italy because they ran out of equipment to save them, and they have to pick which person lives and which dies, and there are 20 more people who need that equipment in the ambulances outside.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 7941289, member: 72555"] The death rate in areas where the health care system is overwealmed by the number of cases is consistently 4% or higher. Go ahead, find me one. Death rates where it isn't overwealmed? In the ballpark of 1%. There are mild cases. But "mild" includes "anyone who doesn't need Oxygen to survive". It also includes someone completely asymptomatic. Mild: Doesn't need O2 suppliment. ~85% of cases. Moderate: Doesn't need respirator or more. ~10% of cases. Severe: Needs a respirator. ~5% of cases. Italy stats: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099375/coronavirus-cases-by-region-in-italy/[/URL] ^ cases by region [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099389/coronavirus-deaths-by-region-in-italy/[/URL] ^ deaths by region [B]DIVIDE[/B]. Some regions are approaching 10%. Look in Wuhan. It had a high rate there, and low in the rest of China. A big difference? Hospitals overwealmed. Many (NOT most, many) people who get this survive with intensive medical intervention. Without that intervention, they die; we don't put people on Respirators for [b]fun[/b]. Hospital capacity for this intervention isn't high - the US has something like 60k beds, most of them in use, and can probably cobble together a few more using gear used for surgery. If you have 30k beds assigned to this, * 20 is 600k -- with more than 600k sick, you lose the ability to use those beds for new patients. And these beds don't teleport and neither do patients; so any one area with too many sick runs out. They are letting people drown in their own lungs in Italy because they ran out of equipment to save them, and they have to pick which person lives and which dies, and there are 20 more people who need that equipment in the ambulances outside. [/QUOTE]
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