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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7975530" data-attributes="member: 6716779">We discussed it on other forums and the key thing seemed to be transmission to the US via Europe.It probably hit UK/Europe earlier then across the Atlantic to NYC.Seattle/California a lot better off.Same thing happened in Spanish flu some areas lucked out. China maybe contained it well except perhaps a few people who didn't go to Japan.One would think if it was going to take off in Japan you would be seeing bodies by now regardless of how bad government action is.Eastern Europe also seems lightly hit. Pacific area also lucked out even with tourism to the islands. Some had 0 Covid like Rarotonga.Consider. NZ/Ireland.Population 4.8/4.9 millionCases 1470/19276Deaths 18/1087There's a discussion in Reddit r) NewZealand.Dublin and Auckland are also similar sizes, population density is 3 times greater in Dublin though.NZ numbers also look good vs smaller Scandinavian nation's.We locked down early in numbers here but I think we just had less exposure.By the time Europe locked down it was to late, they needed to lock down early February mid February at the latest.Quality of healthcare doesn't seem to be making a massive difference.It was mist likely spreading in January/February, western type nation's have a larger % of old people and more accurate data collection for deaths. Testing methods and reporting methods are all over the place. Our numbers included probables that later got turned into negatives.Efficient public transportation is also a factor. It's crap in NZ and USA.In the Black Plague Poland lucked out.  It happens.If you have another NZer within 30 metres they're to close.[ATTACH=full]121465[/ATTACH]Next door neighbor is English.[ATTACH=full]121466[/ATTACH]They kept it out if the old folks homes here, half our cases are one location no one died under the age of 62, most were 70+.Transport hubs, tourist traps, efficient public transport, high population density and older population. Perfect storm.</blockquote>

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