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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8086195" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>(I am pretty sure this is fairly common here too even without it being constitutionally defined). However the laws I am talking about are those about child welfare ie those about caretaker Neglect and child endangerment and abuse laws. And refusing "needed" medical treatment is defined as neglect/abuse (sometimes prosecuted the same here)</p><p></p><p>Yes I picked them as examples where it seems most likely one could say not providing these would OBVIOUSLY be neglect of needed treatment or abuse as they can be done after the fact. Rabies always is but in the states Tetanus is not it's done preemptively and "required" and lasts well over 10 years, I see them as a potential starting point legally. The fear of the "evil" vaccine is not necessarily going to distinguish. </p><p></p><p>In the US all 50 states have laws that require school children to be vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis ; hepatitis (HBV); measles and rubella (MMR vaccine); polio (IPV vaccine); and varicella (chickenpox). The laws allowing non-medical exemptions are problematic. </p><p></p><p>The current state of affairs has people doing lawsuits against parents who did not vaccinate their children who subsequent fell ill and infected others. So its basically civil court pressure instead of being treated as neglect.</p><p></p><p> If a parent does not comply with a school’s policy, the child will not be allowed to attend, and the parent can then be arrested for the child’s truancy. So many anti-vaxxers choose to homeschool their children (difficulties doing this may also be why its well off people who anti-vaxx it is a "first world" problem )</p><p></p><p>So the law is really isn't protecting these children in the current form I think it should.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 8086195, member: 82504"] (I am pretty sure this is fairly common here too even without it being constitutionally defined). However the laws I am talking about are those about child welfare ie those about caretaker Neglect and child endangerment and abuse laws. And refusing "needed" medical treatment is defined as neglect/abuse (sometimes prosecuted the same here) Yes I picked them as examples where it seems most likely one could say not providing these would OBVIOUSLY be neglect of needed treatment or abuse as they can be done after the fact. Rabies always is but in the states Tetanus is not it's done preemptively and "required" and lasts well over 10 years, I see them as a potential starting point legally. The fear of the "evil" vaccine is not necessarily going to distinguish. In the US all 50 states have laws that require school children to be vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis ; hepatitis (HBV); measles and rubella (MMR vaccine); polio (IPV vaccine); and varicella (chickenpox). The laws allowing non-medical exemptions are problematic. The current state of affairs has people doing lawsuits against parents who did not vaccinate their children who subsequent fell ill and infected others. So its basically civil court pressure instead of being treated as neglect. If a parent does not comply with a school’s policy, the child will not be allowed to attend, and the parent can then be arrested for the child’s truancy. So many anti-vaxxers choose to homeschool their children (difficulties doing this may also be why its well off people who anti-vaxx it is a "first world" problem ) So the law is really isn't protecting these children in the current form I think it should. [/QUOTE]
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