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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8335756" data-attributes="member: 12731">Nobody is arguing with you on that point. It's just that there are some mightily unrealistic hopes for how people are going to react. People are -apparently- stupid, ignorant and selfish. The number of conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers will remain higher than needed for the virus to keep circulating. I wish I could add "unless your country is enlightened enough" but I've lost hope even my own country belongs to that club... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />It is extremely obvious total lockdowns (the kind where police drags you away if you violate curfews) are the only thing that works against COVID. The frustration in seeing politicians drag their feet time and time again, and only impose ineffectual restrictions way past the time they would have been truly effective has made for an excruciating year and a half. Observing seemingly intellectual friends downplay and dismiss the pandemic. Basically seeing society taking EVERY CHANCE to act as if the pandemic didn't exist.Basically, the only regimes equipped to actually defeat COVID are the truly authoritarian ones. I'm all for democracy, but apparently that means your freedom to infect and kill others is a sacred liberty...</blockquote>

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