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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8371072" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>We had a candidate for governor in IL once who ran on needing a tax increase to pay for all the things the voters wanted (like, well, schools). Of course they got slaughtered by the candidate who promised no tax increases. Of course, a while in, they had to raise taxes.</p><p></p><p>One of my biggest pet peeves are folks who want a tax cut or tax increase who can't say specifically what they want to cut out of the budget or fund new. Here we went years hearing "there has to be room for an across the board 4% cut"... with no regard to how many previous years that was said or to the population growing or, well, anything related to reality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure some are being overpaid. What are those making 100k+ doing? Experienced state college professors in a variety of fields in some states make less than some of their fresh Ph.D. students do starting in their first jobs (and some of those private colleges give some great free tuition perks for the kids that many public schools don't). What are the lawyers the state needs making compared to what lawyers of similar experience make in the private sector? The doctors? Those overseeing agencies of 1,000s of employees with 9 figure budgets? (I won't ask about the high school and college football and basketball coaches). What should a teacher with a masters and 20 years experience in an expensive area make? If the state needs workers in a building in an expensive area, how much does it cost for the worker to even live within a reasonable commute? [Edit: Wow 340k employees is a big number!]</p><p></p><p>(Here for a long time there was a ruckus every year about how many state employees made $50k or more. $50k!?!? Wtf should folks with advanced degrees and years of experience and managerial responsibility make.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8371072, member: 6701124"] We had a candidate for governor in IL once who ran on needing a tax increase to pay for all the things the voters wanted (like, well, schools). Of course they got slaughtered by the candidate who promised no tax increases. Of course, a while in, they had to raise taxes. One of my biggest pet peeves are folks who want a tax cut or tax increase who can't say specifically what they want to cut out of the budget or fund new. Here we went years hearing "there has to be room for an across the board 4% cut"... with no regard to how many previous years that was said or to the population growing or, well, anything related to reality. I'm sure some are being overpaid. What are those making 100k+ doing? Experienced state college professors in a variety of fields in some states make less than some of their fresh Ph.D. students do starting in their first jobs (and some of those private colleges give some great free tuition perks for the kids that many public schools don't). What are the lawyers the state needs making compared to what lawyers of similar experience make in the private sector? The doctors? Those overseeing agencies of 1,000s of employees with 9 figure budgets? (I won't ask about the high school and college football and basketball coaches). What should a teacher with a masters and 20 years experience in an expensive area make? If the state needs workers in a building in an expensive area, how much does it cost for the worker to even live within a reasonable commute? [Edit: Wow 340k employees is a big number!] (Here for a long time there was a ruckus every year about how many state employees made $50k or more. $50k!?!? Wtf should folks with advanced degrees and years of experience and managerial responsibility make.) [/QUOTE]
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