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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8386037" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, we are getting serious about doing Medicine.  It's never, ever been about trying to prove "who's the boss". That's the line the anti-vaxxer crowd wants people to accept.  That it's about "personal freedoms" and the like.  It has never, EVER been about that.  Mask mandates, stay at home orders, whatever, have NOTHING to do with curbing personal freedoms and everything to do with trying to save lives.It's absolutely astonishing to me that anyone would seriously think that the government actually wants to curb freedoms and whatnot.  Do people not realize that most governments are commiting political suicide right now?  Other than maybe New Zealand anyway.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Ask Ontario how they feel about their Premier.  Or Canada what they think of Trudeau.  Good grief, anti-vaxxers were so violent that Trudeau actually had to cancel a public meeting a day or so ago.  In CANADA??!?!  Good grief, we had a PM who called out the freaking army, stripped away every Canadians rights and enacted the War Measures Act and had less hostility than what Trudeau is facing now. We HAVE the public trust.  Overwhelmingly do we have the public trust.  Every single poll shows that people are getting vaccinated, in very large numbers, and support (to some degree anyway) mask mandates and various other things that the governments have had to do.  This isn't about gaining trust.  This is about finally addressing the elephant in the room that has been simmering for decades - a very insular, very defensive and very, very wrong group of the population that has rejected anything approaching science in favor of whatever naughty word that makes them feel better about the world.  To be very, very blunt about it, this is the West's version of extremists.  They are violent.  They are not interested in anything approaching conciliation and they are radicalized.There is almost no difference between these people and any other radical extremists you care to name.</blockquote>

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