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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8479675" data-attributes="member: 177">Folks say "surburban sprawl is a problem", without recognizing two things - 1) that "the problem of suburban sprawl" is nto, in fact, one single problem, but a constellation of issues that have been associated with suburban living, many of which are nt so much problems as value judgements, and 2) that any way you try to house tens of millions of people raises issues.  Urban sprawl is also a problem.  Having everyone housed only in rural areas is also a problem.  So, this is glib, poorly defined, and is not specifically an American problem.There is no way to meet basic needs on the scale of human populations - housing, food, power, clothing - that doesn't raise difficulties.  However, difficulties could be mitigated by intelligently chosen modest changes.Sorry, Zardnaar - but most of the things people point to as "problems of suburban (or urban) sprawl" are basically legacies of uninformed zoning laws.  Update zoning laws with new understanding of urban planning, and the issues will work themselves out over time.So, if you just drop the entirely unnecessary "overnight" bit that you unilaterally imposed for no discernible reason - and recognize that societal change is a generational thing - the impossibility vanishes in a puff of smoke.Since you didn't actually define the problem you're speaking of clearly, it is very, very easy to assess the difficulty as beyond reach.  Come back with well defined, specific issues, and then maybe we can talk.</blockquote>

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