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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8677427" data-attributes="member: 12731">Thank you for trying not to juxtapose "so you want me to abstain from things I wanna do, you must want me to totally isolate" which is the relativism that's so common. Nobody expects you to totally isolate. I'm not telling anyone to totally isolate just because I tell them their trips expose them to greater risk than they want to admit.So let me rewrite your three options there just to illustrate. Not putting words in your mouths here, this is just what I consider more constructive:(One end)  Going indoors with a lot of strangers. Visiting malls, airports, riding packed trains and such. Basically, saying "F U" to the virus, but the virus won't care. The only person getting shafted here will be you. And your relatives.(Another end) Visiting a close circle of friends and family. Yes, they can transmit covid too, but the number of people you meet make a huge difference, and half a dozen up to a dozen people is not the same thing as being in close proximity to dozens if not hundreds of strangers. Shopping in person in exceptional cases. Not frequently or regularly, but not never either. Yes, you take a risk each time you go indoors where there's a lot of people, but if you take that risk once a month you're far less likely to catch covid than if you take that risk three times a week. So, have food and groceries delivered to you, but don't skip a nice quiet restaurant for your wedding anniversary, say. Just skip the "usual friday outing" you were accustomed to from before the pandemic.Note there's no middle ground here. That's because all these scenarios with extremes at the ends are really only designed to justify you picking the middle option. That looks reasonable, but that's a fallacy. </blockquote>

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