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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scribe" data-source="post: 8617955" data-attributes="member: 6807152">Yes, I'm sure 100% of the female population are against bikinis. Certainly checks out for swimwear.And as noted thrice, at least, just running an adventure as Sword and Sorcery, is not the main issue. Tone, style of art, are part and parcel of the books Wizards sells, and for my money there has been a shift in tone away from books like ToA, or Rime, and even the 2 pages on Dark Fantasy made mention of keeping it heroic or something like that.Yes, I could run a game, with options to make a gritty game if I chose, probably picked out of a handful of products.OR I could go with a third party option that actually makes an effort to fit the style I'm looking for, because AGAIN that isn't where Wizards is trending.</blockquote>