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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 8618361" data-attributes="member: 6799660">&lt;Moved the section of the wikipedia article slightly. &gt;Strangely, the most recent IP to capture all these criteria that I've most recently seen is a Dreamworks <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Guys_(film)" target="_blank">talking-animal kids movie</a>. And that, to me, raises the point that the thing that Conan stories have, that classic detective stories had, that Westerns (another disappearing genre) had, that lots of stuff I also read in K-12 had, were lower stakes. Conan sees a tower and decides to loot it? Worked for Howard, don't see a lot of it now. Poirot/Marple/Holmes solves a case of a single murder by poison -- Might have worked for Murder She Wrote but most CSI episodes need more twist. There's not much specific I can point to in Game of Thrones that doesn't fit sword and sorcery except that they are fighting over control of a continent. It certainly isn't definitive, but it sure seems like there isn't a lot all that definitive to the genres.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 8618361, member: 6799660"] [I][SIZE=1]<Moved the section of the wikipedia article slightly. >[/SIZE][/I] Strangely, the most recent IP to capture all these criteria that I've most recently seen is a Dreamworks [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Guys_(film)']talking-animal kids movie[/URL]. And that, to me, raises the point that the thing that Conan stories have, that classic detective stories had, that Westerns (another disappearing genre) had, that lots of stuff I also read in K-12 had, were [U]lower[/U] [U]stakes[/U]. Conan sees a tower and decides to loot it? Worked for Howard, don't see a lot of it now. Poirot/Marple/Holmes solves a case of a single murder by poison -- Might have worked for [I]Murder She Wrote[/I] but most [I]CSI [/I]episodes need more twist. There's not much specific I can point to in [I]Game of Thrones[/I] that doesn't fit sword and sorcery except that they are fighting over control of a continent. It certainly isn't definitive, but it sure seems like there isn't a lot all that definitive to the genres. [/QUOTE]

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