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Message: <blockquote data-quote="beholdsa" data-source="post: 3841049" data-attributes="member: 26299">There's a spectrum of theme and gameplay that ranges from low and realistic to epic and over the top.  Currently D&D is somewhere in the middle there, with WoW being more to the epic-and-over-the-top side compared to D&D.  Unfortunately, the side I prefer more is the more low-and-realistic side of the spectrum.  4th Edition seems to be taking the game in the opposite direction of where I would like the game to go.  In 3.5e my favorite levels are 1 -3.  The game essentially becomes almost unplayable IMHO around level 7 or 8 when casters begin to get 4th level spells.I am a big fan of games where PCs start out small and have to work their way up, kicking and fighting for every inch of power and recognition along the way.  I like games where death is imminent and could lurk at every strike.  I like game where the town guards or hordes of villagers pose a threat to even established characters.I don't want epic-level superheroes, videogame-like moves that break my suspension of disbelief or anything more over-the-top than your typical old Dragonlance novel.Comparing to MMOs, I want more old school Ultima Online, less Everquest/WoW.</blockquote>