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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 3841086" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>Especially since everyone who starts a thread about it seems to only have a glancing familiarity with WoW. (Jonathan was way too kind on the factual errors made by the OP.)</p><p></p><p>If people are going to be scared of the WoW Menace, they ought to break down and actually play the game more than 10 minutes three years ago.</p><p></p><p>Yes, like all MMORPGs, WoW has a lot of ideas originally taken from D&D. In WoW's case, though, the transition really ended more than a decade ago, when the first two Warcraft games came out. WoW now draws from the previous Warcraft games and expansions, novels, graphic novels and so on.</p><p></p><p>Even most WoW players don't seem to realize how many elements of WoW come from previous Warcraft games -- witness all the people moaning that WoW is almost out of villains, just because the next expansion features most of the rest of the Warcraft III bad guys.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, I don't know this will ever change. D&D isn't the one with 10 million current players worldwide, and growing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think WoW only gets into that toward (and past) level 60, which really corresponds to epic levels in 3E. I'd slash WoW levels by three to get a roughly equivalent 3E character. So, yeah, my level 70 dwarf hunter (3E: level 23 dwarf ranger) does some pretty amazing stuff.</p><p></p><p>But he also spent a lot of time crawling low level dungeons and fighting large nasty bears and such. There's plenty of room for low-level play in WoW, and in the next patch, they're giving a <em>lot</em> of love to the lower level game, so I think for folks who want to draw inspiration from WoW, Blizzard certainly is on-board with the lower-powered game being compelling and fun as well.</p><p></p><p>I look forward to marching my dwarf (well, riding his ram) back to the Dustwallow Marsh to do all the quests regarding Theramore and the new goblin outpost and finally bringing the raiders who killed everyone in that inn on the edge of the Barrens to justice. I don't want or need to always be fighting the ghosts of powerful archmages in the haunted tower of the greatest wizard the world has ever known: Simple fun like fishing contests or delivering Brewfest kegs or keeping the Headless Horseman from burning down Kharanos work for me as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 3841086, member: 11760"] Especially since everyone who starts a thread about it seems to only have a glancing familiarity with WoW. (Jonathan was way too kind on the factual errors made by the OP.) If people are going to be scared of the WoW Menace, they ought to break down and actually play the game more than 10 minutes three years ago. Yes, like all MMORPGs, WoW has a lot of ideas originally taken from D&D. In WoW's case, though, the transition really ended more than a decade ago, when the first two Warcraft games came out. WoW now draws from the previous Warcraft games and expansions, novels, graphic novels and so on. Even most WoW players don't seem to realize how many elements of WoW come from previous Warcraft games -- witness all the people moaning that WoW is almost out of villains, just because the next expansion features most of the rest of the Warcraft III bad guys. Unfortunately, I don't know this will ever change. D&D isn't the one with 10 million current players worldwide, and growing. I think WoW only gets into that toward (and past) level 60, which really corresponds to epic levels in 3E. I'd slash WoW levels by three to get a roughly equivalent 3E character. So, yeah, my level 70 dwarf hunter (3E: level 23 dwarf ranger) does some pretty amazing stuff. But he also spent a lot of time crawling low level dungeons and fighting large nasty bears and such. There's plenty of room for low-level play in WoW, and in the next patch, they're giving a [i]lot[/i] of love to the lower level game, so I think for folks who want to draw inspiration from WoW, Blizzard certainly is on-board with the lower-powered game being compelling and fun as well. I look forward to marching my dwarf (well, riding his ram) back to the Dustwallow Marsh to do all the quests regarding Theramore and the new goblin outpost and finally bringing the raiders who killed everyone in that inn on the edge of the Barrens to justice. I don't want or need to always be fighting the ghosts of powerful archmages in the haunted tower of the greatest wizard the world has ever known: Simple fun like fishing contests or delivering Brewfest kegs or keeping the Headless Horseman from burning down Kharanos work for me as well. [/QUOTE]
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