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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 9854276" data-attributes="member: 1125">Der Bremer Roland Statue with his sword and shield <img src="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRM_J4McRWFzUpe_9lw2RXNVSaVlbNRevup2w&s" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="183x275" style="" />Beowulf had an Iron shield specially made so that he could face the dragon and not have his wooden shield burn up.The Greeks at Troy used Spear and Shield but I think that still counts. Ajax was renown for his massive Tower Shield and Spear thrusts.1 Anyway The Lich is an interesting case, it was certainly standardized and fully defined by DnD, but it predates DnD via such examples as Vathek (1786) and RE Howards "Horror from the Mound" (as well as the Sorcerer Xaltotun who Conan faces).Oh and Mumm-ra is a Mummy!! its right there in his name!3 and back in the ancient Col_Pladoh Q&A thread I asked about the DnD random Party composition being a reflection of the Fellowship of the Rings mixed party of elfs, men, dwarfs, halflings and a semi-divine wizard. He dismissed the direct link claiming that any time a group of diverse species and skills gets together, without spotlighting a central hero, its going to look like that. So DnD didnt invent the mixed party, but neither did Tolkien.indeed the Argonauts could be cited as an ancient example of the mixed group of champion, scout, seer and priest travelling from place to place solving problems. Jason was the main character but with Hercules, Orpheus, Atalanta and Medea on board he was far from being the central hero.</blockquote>

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