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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Not a Decepticon" data-source="post: 9854749" data-attributes="member: 7020527">"Beware the dire [animal name]. They're just like [animal name], but dire" - South Park: the Stick of Truth.Funny thing I hardly remember him having a shield in the movie. I do not think he would be good source for inspriation of all the demands for "sword and board fighter".I am not a film buff so a gif from a movie without a title is not very informative to meWould you consider either of them iconic for the hero so much they cannot be imagined without them? Roland I can agree, but didn't Beowulf had that one CGI movie where I do nto remember him using a shield?There is a lich in Gardner Fox's Sword of the Sorcerer (1969). Clark Aston Smith also used that term in reference to corpses and undead in 1930's. But the modern image of a lich was, in fact, codified by d&d. I may even go further and say that a lot of modern divides and classifications between various types of monsters come from d&d. Most of people would and likely still use terms like Ghost, Wraith or Spectre interchangeably, same for say ghoul, zombie, wraith, living dead. Hell, a lot of time there are beings in folklore that completely defy modern classifications derived from D&D, and I do not think it's a surprise they see much less use - Rusalka, Banshee, Dulallalah are are blurring lines between our modern definitions of undead and Fae creatures because these lines once did nto exist.He doesn't really act that much like a Mummy, he fits much closer modern image of a lich.I must disagree here because, well, SUPERHEROES do not have this problem. There is very little to no cohesion betwen an average incarnation of Justice League or Avengers or Teen Titans or X-Men, and yet it is extremely rare for me to look at them and say "they look like someone's d&d party". Exception is when the superhero book is doing a fantasy thing (that time Champions went to Weirdworld, done intentionally by a writer Jim Zub, who is a huge D&D buff, or entire Demon Knights, where all d&d-isms were accidental because writer Paul Cornell doesn't play rpgs). This is why Black Order stands out so much, because they evoke that feeling.I am very specific here about it being a "sword and board fighter", because I can think of archetypes using shield that predate d&d, but pretty much none of them use it with a sword, even Captain America literally uses FIST and board over a sword. Sword in general isn't even a good weapon to pair with a shield, it is inferior to an axe or spear, hence why I feel this archetype shows up mostly in d&d and influenced works and even then, like in Dragon Age Absolution, for every fighter using a sword and a shield there, there is one using shield and a hammer. And Absolution, like all of Dragon Age, wears its d&d influences on its sleeve anyway.</blockquote>

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