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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 435308" data-attributes="member: 5724">Re: Re: Re: Art that grabs meto answer two posters....  Hong: here's some of what i dont like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />page 61 psionics handbookpage 138 psionics handbookpage 74 Deities and Demigodspage 67 Deities and Demigodspage 28 OAmost of enimies and allies.. mainly that guy who cant draw people without dark circles around their eyes.  same thing with the standing stone and forge of furyunfortunately the book i found a lot of proportional problems with i dont own.  the WotC one about fighter types.  if i remember correctly there was on picture in particular about a guy sundering through a shield or something?the art gets much worse when you get to non-WotC stuff.  perhaps the worst example i can think of is from AEG's war.. page 86.I dont want to turn this into a bash on the artwork as much of it is good and obviously i've bought alot of stuff so it hasn't hampered sales.  And i'd rather not speak ill about the people who give me a lot of extra time and spend their energies doing something i appreciate.Looking through what i dont like it comes down to two artists i guess, which i never noticed before.  In general as well, i'm not into the body piercing/kewl armor stuff.  Having been through enough fads of style i see through them and even the current style leaves just as bad a taste in my mouth as the old stuff.  It doesn't matter to me if its fresh, fresh in my mind is already dated.  But honestly.. i'm one of the rare people who wouldn't mind d20 products that had NO art.  Not that i dont like art, i do, its just that art adds no value to my purchases.Wizardru...I agree there are many different styles of comic book art now than there were when i was a young'en.  I musta read 100 some plus issues of Cerebus, because of the good story and the amazing backgrounds.  Anyway...I'm not really interested in most of the newer comics because they are becoming more literary.  ie. they're dealing with internal conflicts represented by external action or by self-dilemma/self-exploratory distruction.I'm not interested in that either.  I dont find "edgy" things interesting.  I dont care about someones personal internal demons and am not interested in reading stories that show the process occuring.  To me its like watching a car wreck.  I DONT have that need many people do to look.  I look away.I long ago realized that within us, everyone of us, are demons of such distructive and evil power, that everyone either triumphs over or succumbs to.  The stories differ.  I've made my peace and cleansed my demons.I dont want this post to sound negative.  I understand all the positive things that can come out of shared <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ty experiences.  Which is really what reading a lot of literature and newer comic books is about.  People read the book/comics and vicariously experience a negative experience, which are hopfully turned around into a positive experience in the end. I prefer positive people who dont struggle with themselves anymore because they've dealt with it.  which is the reason i stopped reading cerebus.. didn't like the guy modeled off of Oscar Wilde.If you want to talk more about it, im game.  I just want to make certain that,  if i am coming off as negative to you, i hope you'll give me the benefit of the doubt about it.  Its just hard to talk about what you don't like without seeming that way.thanks,joe b.</blockquote>

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