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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7906941" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>In my campaigns its context and theme what determinates what is allowed.</p><p></p><p>Take my version of Greyhawk e.g. it is humans gnomes halfelves halforcs and halfdevils (tieflings). I got my reasons because it is a bit like a 30 years war scenario, and the techlevel is quasi renaissance. Elves and dwarves are to remote, halflings are the nonadventuring folks which love to stay at home. Dragonborn do not exist there and will not in my version of greyhawk.</p><p></p><p>For other official settings adapted to my preferences:</p><p>Ravenloft: I prefer all human party here, maybe a halfling or maybe a gnome or a dwarf. maybe a halfelf.</p><p>No "monster"- PC races, and that might include elves. If there are nonhumans in the party then they have to be the minority, better maximum of one, best none.</p><p></p><p>Darksun: Human Mul Dwarf Elf halfling and if someone wants a challenge Halfgiant or Thrikreen. I do not want halfelves i nmy vision of Darksun and certainly no dragonborn, not even as Dray. Also i do not want flying saurials or aaracrocra. Tieflings not being there is selfevident, no abyss only the grey.</p><p></p><p>Planescape: Humans, Genasi, Aasimar, Tieflings, Modrons, Bariaur if soemone really wants one. </p><p></p><p>FR: in my take on FR i'd allow everything from PHB eventually even Dragonborn but no Drow.</p><p></p><p>Dragonlance: Humans Elves (Silvanesti and Qualinesti) Halfelves Dwarves (Hill Mountain and Gully) Kender Eventually Minotaurs (Reskinned halforcs) Eventually tinker gnomes but i am not sure about that.</p><p></p><p>Of all races in the PHB i dislike Dragonborn the most. They need a whole lot of retconning in nearly every established setting. A lizardman or even a troglodyte would be the better reptillian PC and easier to integrate.</p><p></p><p>I like drow. They are sexy, They are evil. They are cunning mobs. They are cruel. They are perfect for an all evil campaign. Other than that they are mobs. </p><p>Drow ( the evil mobs) are more, much more evil than some other evil mobs. Certainly they are more evil than orcs. They are on par with mind flayers beholders and vampires as i see it.</p><p>Some evil humanoids have a brute primitive way to be evil, drow are intelligent planned evil, for them it is a philosophy.</p><p>It is hard to convince me that races with a very narrow tradition like drow in FR produce individuals who are different. Check out the Drizzt novels. The process and experiences Drizzt has to go through to realize that the typical drow lifestyle is nothing for him, and, more important to survive in a drow city with this atttude.</p><p>There might be some more individuals like him but to have them run around in hordes is so unlikely.</p><p>D&D worlds have sometimes more prejustice than real world (unfortunately it does exist in real world also)</p><p>For common folks it is a natural protection to see in the drow only the monster which they knwo they usually are. Some folks might have heard of Drizzt and him doing good, but it is much more likely that they lost some friend or relative to a drow raid, and their reactions to other drow would not differenciate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7906941, member: 6895991"] In my campaigns its context and theme what determinates what is allowed. Take my version of Greyhawk e.g. it is humans gnomes halfelves halforcs and halfdevils (tieflings). I got my reasons because it is a bit like a 30 years war scenario, and the techlevel is quasi renaissance. Elves and dwarves are to remote, halflings are the nonadventuring folks which love to stay at home. Dragonborn do not exist there and will not in my version of greyhawk. For other official settings adapted to my preferences: Ravenloft: I prefer all human party here, maybe a halfling or maybe a gnome or a dwarf. maybe a halfelf. No "monster"- PC races, and that might include elves. If there are nonhumans in the party then they have to be the minority, better maximum of one, best none. Darksun: Human Mul Dwarf Elf halfling and if someone wants a challenge Halfgiant or Thrikreen. I do not want halfelves i nmy vision of Darksun and certainly no dragonborn, not even as Dray. Also i do not want flying saurials or aaracrocra. Tieflings not being there is selfevident, no abyss only the grey. Planescape: Humans, Genasi, Aasimar, Tieflings, Modrons, Bariaur if soemone really wants one. FR: in my take on FR i'd allow everything from PHB eventually even Dragonborn but no Drow. Dragonlance: Humans Elves (Silvanesti and Qualinesti) Halfelves Dwarves (Hill Mountain and Gully) Kender Eventually Minotaurs (Reskinned halforcs) Eventually tinker gnomes but i am not sure about that. Of all races in the PHB i dislike Dragonborn the most. They need a whole lot of retconning in nearly every established setting. A lizardman or even a troglodyte would be the better reptillian PC and easier to integrate. I like drow. They are sexy, They are evil. They are cunning mobs. They are cruel. They are perfect for an all evil campaign. Other than that they are mobs. Drow ( the evil mobs) are more, much more evil than some other evil mobs. Certainly they are more evil than orcs. They are on par with mind flayers beholders and vampires as i see it. Some evil humanoids have a brute primitive way to be evil, drow are intelligent planned evil, for them it is a philosophy. It is hard to convince me that races with a very narrow tradition like drow in FR produce individuals who are different. Check out the Drizzt novels. The process and experiences Drizzt has to go through to realize that the typical drow lifestyle is nothing for him, and, more important to survive in a drow city with this atttude. There might be some more individuals like him but to have them run around in hordes is so unlikely. D&D worlds have sometimes more prejustice than real world (unfortunately it does exist in real world also) For common folks it is a natural protection to see in the drow only the monster which they knwo they usually are. Some folks might have heard of Drizzt and him doing good, but it is much more likely that they lost some friend or relative to a drow raid, and their reactions to other drow would not differenciate. [/QUOTE]
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