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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9392645" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I'm sorry. In part, your post was just a jumping off point for my frustrations with the topic. You just had a few triggering phrases that had me grinding my teeth. </p><p></p><p>I think of it like this, overall. Gotham is a great setting to read about, in small doses. Batman fits Gotham, and it is good that Gotham is so terrible that Batman can never truly win, because then we keep getting Batman stories. But, when I play DnD, I want to reach an ending that is good, while playing a character that is good. And if my character encounters "Gotham City" while adventuring... I can't actually do anything about it. My DnD party can't end racism, solve slavery, get rid of addiction, crush poverty, get rid of starvation, clean out government corruption, remove crime... it is too much. Any solutions we offer in the span of a game are either too little to really change anything, or would derail everything and spend years mired in it. But I'm playing a good person with the ability to make the world a better place, unlike real life where everything sucks and I can't change anything. </p><p></p><p>It is fine for me to read a story about someone doing small good in the face of pervasive evil. But when I'm playing that? When it is me that is struggling against a tide that history shows me will just swallow my efforts and leave things teetering on disaster? I just find it too depressing. </p><p></p><p>An adventure where we go to "Gotham" and it is terrible, but we learn about the demon sealed beneath it, and go to stop a cult where we destroy the demon and make things better? I could do that. Just passing through and being reminded that the world sucks and all your efforts cannot make it better? I can turn on the 7 o'clock news just fine, and it is worse anyways. I'm much happier, as a world-builder, just taking the worst parts of human nature, setting them aside, and not using them in my world-building. Trust me, there is plenty of bad leftover to make the world grey.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9392645, member: 6801228"] I'm sorry. In part, your post was just a jumping off point for my frustrations with the topic. You just had a few triggering phrases that had me grinding my teeth. I think of it like this, overall. Gotham is a great setting to read about, in small doses. Batman fits Gotham, and it is good that Gotham is so terrible that Batman can never truly win, because then we keep getting Batman stories. But, when I play DnD, I want to reach an ending that is good, while playing a character that is good. And if my character encounters "Gotham City" while adventuring... I can't actually do anything about it. My DnD party can't end racism, solve slavery, get rid of addiction, crush poverty, get rid of starvation, clean out government corruption, remove crime... it is too much. Any solutions we offer in the span of a game are either too little to really change anything, or would derail everything and spend years mired in it. But I'm playing a good person with the ability to make the world a better place, unlike real life where everything sucks and I can't change anything. It is fine for me to read a story about someone doing small good in the face of pervasive evil. But when I'm playing that? When it is me that is struggling against a tide that history shows me will just swallow my efforts and leave things teetering on disaster? I just find it too depressing. An adventure where we go to "Gotham" and it is terrible, but we learn about the demon sealed beneath it, and go to stop a cult where we destroy the demon and make things better? I could do that. Just passing through and being reminded that the world sucks and all your efforts cannot make it better? I can turn on the 7 o'clock news just fine, and it is worse anyways. I'm much happier, as a world-builder, just taking the worst parts of human nature, setting them aside, and not using them in my world-building. Trust me, there is plenty of bad leftover to make the world grey. [/QUOTE]
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