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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7928403" data-attributes="member: 177">With respect, from my perspective, it is.&nbsp; In terms of how you respond when errors do occur... it is entirely the point.&nbsp; There are constructive, and non-constructive, responses to a failure.&nbsp; It may not be about &quot;enough&quot;.&nbsp; It may very well be about what kind of defects they can detect.For example, as at least one other person has noted - there are some issues that only arise at scale.&nbsp; And having a testing environment that is of the same scale as production is sometimes not financially feasible, and you do with something that seems good enough... until it isn't.&nbsp; Hindsight is 20/20, and all that.It is really, really easy to jump to conclusions when all you see is the end issue, and not a whole lot of what was actually going on.&nbsp; I think the Golden Rule should apply here - how much would any of you like complete outsiders who have never been within your organization, and are not familiar with your engineering in detail, to be talking trash about your work after you'd had a problem?Extend the same courtesy you'd want extended to you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7928403, member: 177"] With respect, from my perspective, it is. In terms of how you respond when errors do occur... it is entirely the point. There are constructive, and non-constructive, responses to a failure. It may not be about "enough". It may very well be about what kind of defects they can detect. For example, as at least one other person has noted - there are some issues that only arise at scale. And having a testing environment that is of the same scale as production is sometimes not financially feasible, and you do with something that seems good enough... until it isn't. Hindsight is 20/20, and all that. It is really, really easy to jump to conclusions when all you see is the end issue, and not a whole lot of what was actually going on. I think the Golden Rule should apply here - how much would any of you like complete outsiders who have never been within your organization, and are not familiar with your engineering in detail, to be talking trash about your work after you'd had a problem? Extend the same courtesy you'd want extended to you. [/QUOTE]

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