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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7928722" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>You can object to it all you want. But if your argument is that "if some people start using a word by it's wrong definition, then the definition changes. Even if the industry professional in that field continue to use it the correct way." Then you're going to have to provide a solid argument with examples of that. Language evolution happens over a long period of time, and it's usually the majority adopting a new word or term for that to happen.</p><p></p><p>For example, I could provide you a laundry list of words that people keep using incorrectly, but that would bring in the politics discussion, which is verboten. I'm sure you could probably guess many of them. Does that mean all those words suddenly change their definitions because some people are using them incorrectly? No, it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>It's also false to say the gaming industry uses those words differently now. It doesn't. <em>Some </em>in the gaming industry do. But not all. Usually smaller companies or when the code is open source. When companies like Ubisoft, Activision, and EA do Betas, it's for a short defined window (just like how it's defined). It doesn't change the definitions of the words, it only proves that those small companies pushing non-open source code to public and calling it alpha have little or no experience actually working in quality assurance. </p><p></p><p>Additionally, if your argument is true, then one would think that <em>somewhere </em>there would be a definition of the alpha/beta testing cycle that fits your description rather than what it actually is. But no matter where you look, they are defined as how I presented them. The only thing that comes close is a perpetual beta or open source alpha, but neither apply to D&D beyond. Perpetual beta is something much more rare and limited in use, and it certainly isn't called just "beta" by the companies that use it, nor does it change the definition of alpha testing to mean beta testing instead. </p><p></p><p>So if those terms did change in definition, I anxiously await you to provide those definitions, as well as examples of how words have changed meanings from just a few people using them incorrectly while those terms are still in current use among the industry. I have to admit, it strikes me as odd that someone with an educational background in linguistics (that's pretty vague anyway. I could also technically say that since I took Korean in college...), would argue that definitions of words change as long as someone starts using it in the wrong way. Better tell Merriam-Webster. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise, I don't think it's a great stretch for people to accept that the actual definitions of alpha and beta testing are as follows, and what's happening is not that these random companies are changing the definitions of words, but that they aren't familiar with actual quality assurance testing methodology (most likely because they are programmers and not quality assurance experts).</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-alpha-and-beta-testing/[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.guru99.com/alpha-beta-testing-demystified.html[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/what-is-alpha-testing-beta-testing/[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.centercode.com/blog/2011/01/alpha-vs-beta-testing[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://betsol.com/difference-between-uat-alpha-testing-and-beta-testing/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7928722, member: 15700"] You can object to it all you want. But if your argument is that "if some people start using a word by it's wrong definition, then the definition changes. Even if the industry professional in that field continue to use it the correct way." Then you're going to have to provide a solid argument with examples of that. Language evolution happens over a long period of time, and it's usually the majority adopting a new word or term for that to happen. For example, I could provide you a laundry list of words that people keep using incorrectly, but that would bring in the politics discussion, which is verboten. I'm sure you could probably guess many of them. Does that mean all those words suddenly change their definitions because some people are using them incorrectly? No, it doesn't. It's also false to say the gaming industry uses those words differently now. It doesn't. [I]Some [/I]in the gaming industry do. But not all. Usually smaller companies or when the code is open source. When companies like Ubisoft, Activision, and EA do Betas, it's for a short defined window (just like how it's defined). It doesn't change the definitions of the words, it only proves that those small companies pushing non-open source code to public and calling it alpha have little or no experience actually working in quality assurance. Additionally, if your argument is true, then one would think that [I]somewhere [/I]there would be a definition of the alpha/beta testing cycle that fits your description rather than what it actually is. But no matter where you look, they are defined as how I presented them. The only thing that comes close is a perpetual beta or open source alpha, but neither apply to D&D beyond. Perpetual beta is something much more rare and limited in use, and it certainly isn't called just "beta" by the companies that use it, nor does it change the definition of alpha testing to mean beta testing instead. So if those terms did change in definition, I anxiously await you to provide those definitions, as well as examples of how words have changed meanings from just a few people using them incorrectly while those terms are still in current use among the industry. I have to admit, it strikes me as odd that someone with an educational background in linguistics (that's pretty vague anyway. I could also technically say that since I took Korean in college...), would argue that definitions of words change as long as someone starts using it in the wrong way. Better tell Merriam-Webster. Otherwise, I don't think it's a great stretch for people to accept that the actual definitions of alpha and beta testing are as follows, and what's happening is not that these random companies are changing the definitions of words, but that they aren't familiar with actual quality assurance testing methodology (most likely because they are programmers and not quality assurance experts). [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-alpha-and-beta-testing/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.guru99.com/alpha-beta-testing-demystified.html[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/what-is-alpha-testing-beta-testing/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.centercode.com/blog/2011/01/alpha-vs-beta-testing[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://betsol.com/difference-between-uat-alpha-testing-and-beta-testing/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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