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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8845946" data-attributes="member: 18">So you probably work with software suppliers and other devs.What do you call them when they repeatedly, seemingly intentionally mislead you? Getting something wrong is one thing. Being wrong is one thing. Repeatedly telling people something that isn't true, over the course of months or years (and it's years here), that's an entirely other thing.To me, that's lying. As for "It's not worth it", well, do you pay for Beyond? If not then maybe that's the difference. You don't feel like they've been taking some fairly significant fees and not really doing anything positive with them, where for the first couple of years, they manifestly were.No-one is disagreeing with the OP re: Beyond having gone from actively developing their product to doing almost nothing (only chargeable stuff like dice) over the last few months, I note.I mean, more complex than people assume? Absolutely agree.But complex in any more independent sense, like as complex as, say a normal one-man indie video game? Not really. Let alone as complex as products I work with developed by small teams.I mean, they don't even have a VTT - I don't know if you actually are familiar with Beyond, because you haven't said that I've seen - we're not talking about a VTT product. We're talking about a database for creating characters, and a semi-automated (not even fully-automated) character sheet, together with spell/monster/item lists (and the contents of the books).So me thinking they're probably doing a large-scale overhaul is being a "negative nancy", and you thinking the same thing makes you what lol? Also a "negative nancy"?My issue isn't with what they're currently doing behind the scenes, that's unknowable, we both agree, and we have similar theories on what it is.My issue is that they have got steadily worse at communicating for four years (including what appears to be actual misinformation, and certainly no apologies for it), and got dramatically worse to the point of silence under WotC's management/leadership.</blockquote>

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