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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 7720307" data-attributes="member: 40359"><p>No it is not a difficult distinction. Getting new books and getting the same content in different usable forms are, of course, not the same thing. </p><p></p><p>But a physical book on my shelf and the data in an online tool are also, of course, not the same thing.</p><p></p><p>Defcon 1's point (I think it was them) was that knowing human nature, it's interesting to notice fans saying they want to give WotC more money to support D&D, but then saying "Oh no, but not like THAT." Of course you can ask for more books but not be interested in D&D Beyond. Yes, I agree with you that those aren't mutually exclusive ideas. I took Defcon 1's point as a general comment "Huh, people can be funny sometimes." not "You bunch of hypocrites!" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>However, the flip side you replied with went too far the other way claiming that D&D Beyond is just buying the same book again. The physical book on your shelf and the data in an online tool are very different things, not the same book twice. Maybe the data in the online tool isn't worth anymore to you than the book on your shelf. That doesn't make it the same thing. No added value to ME is a very different thing from no added value at all.</p><p></p><p>(It's a point a lot of people seem to be missing an awful lot. I think it was over on the DDB forums that someone said they "can put a music CD in their computer and get all of the songs in iTunes. What's the difference here?" To which someone replied "Ok, shove your Players Handbook into your computer and see if a tool like DDB comes out.")</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 7720307, member: 40359"] No it is not a difficult distinction. Getting new books and getting the same content in different usable forms are, of course, not the same thing. But a physical book on my shelf and the data in an online tool are also, of course, not the same thing. Defcon 1's point (I think it was them) was that knowing human nature, it's interesting to notice fans saying they want to give WotC more money to support D&D, but then saying "Oh no, but not like THAT." Of course you can ask for more books but not be interested in D&D Beyond. Yes, I agree with you that those aren't mutually exclusive ideas. I took Defcon 1's point as a general comment "Huh, people can be funny sometimes." not "You bunch of hypocrites!" :) However, the flip side you replied with went too far the other way claiming that D&D Beyond is just buying the same book again. The physical book on your shelf and the data in an online tool are very different things, not the same book twice. Maybe the data in the online tool isn't worth anymore to you than the book on your shelf. That doesn't make it the same thing. No added value to ME is a very different thing from no added value at all. (It's a point a lot of people seem to be missing an awful lot. I think it was over on the DDB forums that someone said they "can put a music CD in their computer and get all of the songs in iTunes. What's the difference here?" To which someone replied "Ok, shove your Players Handbook into your computer and see if a tool like DDB comes out.") [/QUOTE]
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