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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8521730" data-attributes="member: 6801228">That's fair, but I'm trying to explain that the issue people seem to be coalescing around doesn't make sense, if the issue is "this is a new thing that has never happened before." Because it has happened. We have examples, and none of these were ever considered a problem. And when people are complaining about something that doesn't seem to have ever been a problem before... you have to start wondering why. I'm not interested in convincing you in particular, I'm just trying to point out that "how will we handle it" is "just like we've been handling it since the first printings of the MM and Volos" ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////But that isn't what people are saying. People aren't saying "they are making these abilities too common".To just grab the last set of quotes, SkidAce "Quoted for Truth" the following post"I think the concern is that these types of abilities are attached to statblocks of NPCs that are supposed to be actual "wizards" or "clerics" or whatever. That is to say, they're close to certain PC classes in concept, so when their NPC abilities deviate significantly from the PC abilities of similar classes, it raises questions." Nothing about that indicates that the issue is that this has expanded beyond a certain point, but that the kind of issue is unique and the problem. I'm not telling anyone how to feel about the change, but since the question keeps coming up about "how are we supposed to handle these NPC characters having non-spell spells that are similar to PC class spells"... well, exactly like you've been doing. This is not a new "kind" like you said. It is an expansion of an existing paradigm. If people were asking "how do we handle this sort of thing being more common" then we'd be having an very different conversation./////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Seems very likely that Volos and Mordenkainen's will stay in print. The Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide is still in print after all, and I don't know if anything in that is still considered for AL since they've reprinted just about everything in it. Now for AL legal PCs, they've always stated that the most recent version of a race is the AL legal one, so those are getting changed for AL specifically I imagine, but in terms of Monsters, you run the monsters that are in the adventure, I don't think that is really going to change. I mean, don't they always include all the statblocks needed in the adventure? (I haven't run an adventure book, so I don't know.)</blockquote>

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