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D&D Beyond: Monsters of the Multiverse Will Not Replace Existing Monsters
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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8523304" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>I’m pretty they’re arguing that both mechanics and setting assumptions are contradictory between the “new paradigm” and the PHB game. </p><p></p><p>That feeling is irrational. I can absolutely imagine irrational conclusions. I cannot imagine any rational set of reasoning that leads to the above conclusion. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>No. They made variant races and monsters. </p><p></p><p>You’ve move the goalposts, but I’ll address this anyway, below. </p><p></p><p>You didn’t acknowledge it, you replied as if I had made a completely different statement. </p><p></p><p>That’s rich</p><p></p><p>This doesn’t follow from what I said. It is in fact a strawman argument. </p><p> </p><p>5e explicitly replaced 4e as a new edition. It made 4e no longer official, it’s canon no longer the official canon. </p><p> </p><p>For 5e to not be a new edition, the rules of 5e would have to be official part of 4e, which wouldn’t even work because the basic math doesn’t line up, abilities reference rules that are different, etc. </p><p></p><p>They are a variant rule. The only thing that could change that is them making the original write ups invalid via errata. </p><p></p><p>Sure. Nothing remotely like that has occurred, however. Instead, the equivalent of “your DM might choose to use this variant rule, allowing a short rest to take about 15 minutes. The duration of an ability that can be done as part of a short rest does not change. In such a case, the short rest can be taken at any time during the time it takes to use the ability in question.” has been published. Which is…not a change. </p><p></p><p>The original is still official, ergo the new way is an addition, not a change. </p><p></p><p>You mean actually changing a general rule, non-optionally? Sure, that’s a change. You know “the rules for player a Duergar” aren’t a general rule, right? And that having two options for playing Duergar isn’t the same as them changing how it works to play a Duergar?</p><p></p><p>No. I’m not. Your behavior apparently doesn’t match your intent, but the intent doesn’t change what the behavior is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8523304, member: 6704184"] I’m pretty they’re arguing that both mechanics and setting assumptions are contradictory between the “new paradigm” and the PHB game. That feeling is irrational. I can absolutely imagine irrational conclusions. I cannot imagine any rational set of reasoning that leads to the above conclusion. No. They made variant races and monsters. You’ve move the goalposts, but I’ll address this anyway, below. You didn’t acknowledge it, you replied as if I had made a completely different statement. That’s rich This doesn’t follow from what I said. It is in fact a strawman argument. 5e explicitly replaced 4e as a new edition. It made 4e no longer official, it’s canon no longer the official canon. For 5e to not be a new edition, the rules of 5e would have to be official part of 4e, which wouldn’t even work because the basic math doesn’t line up, abilities reference rules that are different, etc. They are a variant rule. The only thing that could change that is them making the original write ups invalid via errata. Sure. Nothing remotely like that has occurred, however. Instead, the equivalent of “your DM might choose to use this variant rule, allowing a short rest to take about 15 minutes. The duration of an ability that can be done as part of a short rest does not change. In such a case, the short rest can be taken at any time during the time it takes to use the ability in question.” has been published. Which is…not a change. The original is still official, ergo the new way is an addition, not a change. You mean actually changing a general rule, non-optionally? Sure, that’s a change. You know “the rules for player a Duergar” aren’t a general rule, right? And that having two options for playing Duergar isn’t the same as them changing how it works to play a Duergar? No. I’m not. Your behavior apparently doesn’t match your intent, but the intent doesn’t change what the behavior is. [/QUOTE]
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