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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8632280" data-attributes="member: 67338">then a guess a few people claiming compatibly can be ignored too since we just ignore things on enworld nowreally? when did you speak to WotC?sigh... no but you seem to be unclear on what most of us mean by rule. even if I excepted that the rules on how to make an elf did not count as a rule (I don't except this definition) the fact that they didn't just change elf, dwarf ect, but HOW RACES OVERALL are made/work does.the rules that MAKE those monsters changed. In a fundamentally way, and as this thread shows in the places WotC has the power to enforce the change (new digital customers) they are retroactively changing the old to the new... not puting them side by side. this is a NEW way.people did. in small scale mix some (more 1e people taking what they liked from 2e then the other way around but they did) but it was not the norm. the two were sepreate and not togather... and I have seen very little to none of basic mixing in.again trying to bring a half orc monk from 1e into a 2e game would be hard to find a game... I am pretty sure the class dwarf from basic would be orders of magnitude harder.your college group did that cool cool... still different editions, still not remotely proof of anything</blockquote>