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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4538480" data-attributes="member: 70778">Citation for what?The DVD says they went way over budget, that is why the dragon hatching scene was cut and several others went unfinished because they went over budget and couldn't get more money.Meaning WotC/Hasbro taking a chance on a nobody director because he was cheap means they got what they paid for.The second movie had less special effects and a better look to it overall. Soemthing that drew you to know what things were without trying to be flashy/shiny.The love scene itself was laughed at because that is not really a normal part of D&D, or many D&D games.Novels included relation ships, but their adventures didn't have a place really for them, and not everyone played D&D for a dating game. That entire part of the story could have been replaced and let the political tension be the focus rather than sexual tension/frustration.With the childlike empress, it also looked to steal from Neverending Story; which was by far a much better movie.The second movie story was much better but still not that good because it tried to be too many things, including the old modules ideas and 1st edtion play style with a recycled character fromt he first movie, aka Damodar.As for what it did for sales...in my area I know that the entire theatre clapped when it was over because they were glad it was over and kids were crying because were disappointed in it.No books sales were made of current product from the movie, and some were even sold to second hand stores. The movie even drove people to sale off their older edition books because of the way the movie made the game look so stupid.Other than first hand information presetned here, what other types of citations for that section would you like? The DVD itself and interviews with the actors and pres statements made around it can point you in the correct direction, but I doubt the newspapers had online versions at that time to be archived.The bad profit margin....loss margin of the movie is what held a second one back for years, combined with the director having rights tot he film and not ewanting to give them up, and he still had to be included in the second one for it to be made. But rather than director he was the executive producer or something and had little to do with it from what I can tell.It put a stain and scar on D&D to all but the hardcore fans, that I know of.Sorry, I don't get what you mean by your poll reference? People saying then they bought and were going to try 4th doesn't mean they are still playing or buying new books.That is all speculative until some actual sales figures are presented. It will be a while before the novelty of 4th edition wears off and see how well the game is actually doing, by what happens around June of next year with sales, and how quickly the next prinrun sell out.But remember the enxt printrun is errated so it automatically skews any results as people may buy the PHB etc again for "fixed" copies, rather than outdated ones. But I would wager that it won't be the same number that bought the originals, and will take quite a while to meet the number of sales the original run made as the novelty is gone, and some people may not want to even buy it to try it anymore.</blockquote>

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