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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4538793" data-attributes="member: 70778"><p>OK lets try this....</p><p></p><p>Gaming stores helped ALL forms of gaming and they were created in many new areas thanks to CCGs? Is this disputed?</p><p></p><p>With EACH new edition you find that the number of players solely playing the new edition decreases as people stay with the older editions.</p><p></p><p>I haven't yet been to anywhere that doesn't still have more people playing 3rd edition than 4th. A few AD&D games, and seen a RC game once.</p><p></p><p>Outside of an RPGA event that now requires 4th, there are few people I see that are playing 4th edition in these stores.</p><p></p><p>They are still dominated with 3rd edition players and 3rd edition groups with a few older editions thrown in.</p><p></p><p>So either they are playing 4th edition safely away form 3rd edition players, or just not as many are playing in these stores.</p><p></p><p>It may be they play 4th at home, and only 3rd in the stores because of the numbers of people they can get a quick game with still that know 3rd.</p><p></p><p>I haven't really looked into RPGA events as I don't think there have been that many yet, and don't really like the living games idea with mixing up groups. I like a good formed group not a whole new mix each time you play.</p><p></p><p>Possibly only a localized phenomenon, but it all I have to go on. I haven't heard of anystore that doesn't still have a majority 3rd edition playerbase.</p><p></p><p>Poll:</p><p></p><p>I think it will give good information basing 4th vs 4th at a later date to show how stable those numbers were in the beginning versus if it was the novelty of the newest thing.</p><p></p><p>@malraux:</p><p></p><p>I could have swore my DVD disagrees with that statement, and WotC approved and gave the rights to the movie to that director as TSR turned him down. Maybe Boz our local wikipedia expert can look into that article after the WotC one is fixed?</p><p></p><p>I will throw any info from the DVD into a thread if/when he makes it about updating the movie's article.</p><p></p><p>I am sure WotC had a good bit of input for that movie as one of the WotC/D&D execs was a supervisor for it. How much that entails I don't know right off hand. Maybe Mr Rouse or Mearls knows if it is not on the DVD.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that is a key thing to look at.</p><p></p><p>@MOVIE:</p><p></p><p>I watch DVD extras once, and then never again. How many years ago was that? So of course this is all fresh in my head. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4538793, member: 70778"] OK lets try this.... Gaming stores helped ALL forms of gaming and they were created in many new areas thanks to CCGs? Is this disputed? With EACH new edition you find that the number of players solely playing the new edition decreases as people stay with the older editions. I haven't yet been to anywhere that doesn't still have more people playing 3rd edition than 4th. A few AD&D games, and seen a RC game once. Outside of an RPGA event that now requires 4th, there are few people I see that are playing 4th edition in these stores. They are still dominated with 3rd edition players and 3rd edition groups with a few older editions thrown in. So either they are playing 4th edition safely away form 3rd edition players, or just not as many are playing in these stores. It may be they play 4th at home, and only 3rd in the stores because of the numbers of people they can get a quick game with still that know 3rd. I haven't really looked into RPGA events as I don't think there have been that many yet, and don't really like the living games idea with mixing up groups. I like a good formed group not a whole new mix each time you play. Possibly only a localized phenomenon, but it all I have to go on. I haven't heard of anystore that doesn't still have a majority 3rd edition playerbase. Poll: I think it will give good information basing 4th vs 4th at a later date to show how stable those numbers were in the beginning versus if it was the novelty of the newest thing. @malraux: I could have swore my DVD disagrees with that statement, and WotC approved and gave the rights to the movie to that director as TSR turned him down. Maybe Boz our local wikipedia expert can look into that article after the WotC one is fixed? I will throw any info from the DVD into a thread if/when he makes it about updating the movie's article. I am sure WotC had a good bit of input for that movie as one of the WotC/D&D execs was a supervisor for it. How much that entails I don't know right off hand. Maybe Mr Rouse or Mearls knows if it is not on the DVD. I think that is a key thing to look at. @MOVIE: I watch DVD extras once, and then never again. How many years ago was that? So of course this is all fresh in my head. :P [/QUOTE]
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