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D&D: big as it ever was? (Forked Thread: So...How are Sales of 4E Product?)
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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4541983" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Good sales don't provide an incentive to change minds. They just mean that there are enough people interested in the product that they buy it. </p><p></p><p>And it also means that the role-playing audience in general and the D&D audience in general has a certain size. (A short reminder - this thread isn't about success or failure of 4E, but the "size of D&D"). If there are tons of 3E players that never convert to 4e and there are still tons of 4E players, this means that D&D is big. If there are tons of 3E players that stop playing and never convert and 4E doesn't sell, we can conclude D&D isn't big, and probably shrinking.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately we don't know much about the real size of D&D before 3E. But my arguments for its size:</p><p>1) D&D doesn't need much explaining. It doesn't have its own series anymore, but there are still lots of references to it. It's not uncommon of Genre shows to refer to D&D, either.</p><p></p><p>2) The market for games and gaming itself seems to be very strong thanks to video games and MMORPGs. Once you're in the gaming culture, it is easy to get into role-playing. </p><p></p><p>3) D&D probably has never been easier to acquire. You're just a google search away from finding out what it is and even ask questions about it, and can get it online without ever leaving your home. Of course this applies to a ton of products, but I dare say that products that won't find a buyer are still hard to find online...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4541983, member: 710"] Good sales don't provide an incentive to change minds. They just mean that there are enough people interested in the product that they buy it. And it also means that the role-playing audience in general and the D&D audience in general has a certain size. (A short reminder - this thread isn't about success or failure of 4E, but the "size of D&D"). If there are tons of 3E players that never convert to 4e and there are still tons of 4E players, this means that D&D is big. If there are tons of 3E players that stop playing and never convert and 4E doesn't sell, we can conclude D&D isn't big, and probably shrinking. Unfortunately we don't know much about the real size of D&D before 3E. But my arguments for its size: 1) D&D doesn't need much explaining. It doesn't have its own series anymore, but there are still lots of references to it. It's not uncommon of Genre shows to refer to D&D, either. 2) The market for games and gaming itself seems to be very strong thanks to video games and MMORPGs. Once you're in the gaming culture, it is easy to get into role-playing. 3) D&D probably has never been easier to acquire. You're just a google search away from finding out what it is and even ask questions about it, and can get it online without ever leaving your home. Of course this applies to a ton of products, but I dare say that products that won't find a buyer are still hard to find online... [/QUOTE]
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