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<blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 9033144" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>I'm not straw manning, Teachers are being asked to carry firearms because of school shootings. That you didn't get that that was what I intended is lost on me. I was comparing that Amazon associates making the same or MORE than teachers was more telling about what we want to pay teachers and you rebutted that and I was calling out that no it really is a reflection of what we want to pay teachers who deserve a HECK of a lot more than we pay them/give them but again... do go on with how Amazon paying about the same as a teacher make is more of an indictment of Amazon than how much we pay teachers while we see people fighting to force them to have firearms in their classrooms, have bleed kits, run active shooter drills for first graders while simultaneously reducing their funding so that they are paying for their necessary supplies out of pocket and making it harder for them to write off those things on their tax returns as part of their jobs. Oh and demonizing them as groomers etc. Please... tell me how all that is a good excuse to compare the poor wages of a teacher being an indictment of the "poor" wages of Amazon employees who aren't being asked to deal with these things. Teachers are GROSSLY underpaid... by about 30k a year in my estimation. And yes I know all about the minimum wage. </p><p></p><p>I will end this conversation here because not the place for it. I was merely trying to redress the idea that Amazon isn't paying as poorly as believed nor the work environment it has been in the past. When I started it was 11 an hour. It's far greater than that now and most of that in the last 3 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="teitan, post: 9033144, member: 3457"] I'm not straw manning, Teachers are being asked to carry firearms because of school shootings. That you didn't get that that was what I intended is lost on me. I was comparing that Amazon associates making the same or MORE than teachers was more telling about what we want to pay teachers and you rebutted that and I was calling out that no it really is a reflection of what we want to pay teachers who deserve a HECK of a lot more than we pay them/give them but again... do go on with how Amazon paying about the same as a teacher make is more of an indictment of Amazon than how much we pay teachers while we see people fighting to force them to have firearms in their classrooms, have bleed kits, run active shooter drills for first graders while simultaneously reducing their funding so that they are paying for their necessary supplies out of pocket and making it harder for them to write off those things on their tax returns as part of their jobs. Oh and demonizing them as groomers etc. Please... tell me how all that is a good excuse to compare the poor wages of a teacher being an indictment of the "poor" wages of Amazon employees who aren't being asked to deal with these things. Teachers are GROSSLY underpaid... by about 30k a year in my estimation. And yes I know all about the minimum wage. I will end this conversation here because not the place for it. I was merely trying to redress the idea that Amazon isn't paying as poorly as believed nor the work environment it has been in the past. When I started it was 11 an hour. It's far greater than that now and most of that in the last 3 years. [/QUOTE]
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