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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8082759" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>Sounds like you value including OA in the game more than including people in this game. :/</p><p></p><p>We don't need WotC to "undo damage" to OA. OA doesn't require fixing, it doesn't require respect, it doesn't require any thought. People deserve respect. People deserve inclusion. OA doesn't respect people or include them - it shuts people out.</p><p></p><p>My apologies for any words that were harsher than intended. Still, nobody is threatening you. I certainly am not, or intend this not as much so much as pushback. You can go along and play the game however you want. Just please don't use such toxic metaphors as tar and feathering when it comes to books; it's demeaning to the memory of people who have been tarred and feathered in real life. All I and others are doing is standing up against racism in our beloved hobby.</p><p></p><p>The only way we have EVER been able to make progress in this hobby is by demanding change and by holding the people in power accountable, with the threat of taking our business elsewhere if we don't get that change. WotC is FINALLY starting to listen to demands for human decency and equal representation and elimination of racist and sexist caricatures and tropes in their games. This only happens because people like Kwan have pushed them into the corner that they have to act.</p><p></p><p>WotC listens to big data. The vast majority of players want the game to be more respectful and more inclusive. OA has NO place in that. It can't.</p><p></p><p>And yet, still, WotC are selling you OA in their backcatalog, because they don't want to lose the potential of a sale to someone like you who wants OA in their lives. If anything, WotC should be removing the book from their digital stores. The least we can have is Kwan on a major panel taking the company to task on this front.</p><p></p><p>The soft pushback you're getting here is marginal compared to the centuries of ridicule and caricature minorities have endured, in which D&D has the very gross history of engaging in. OA is on the wrong side of history, and I applaud Kwan for forcing WotC's hand so far as to even get a seat a the table.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8082759, member: 6803643"] Sounds like you value including OA in the game more than including people in this game. :/ We don't need WotC to "undo damage" to OA. OA doesn't require fixing, it doesn't require respect, it doesn't require any thought. People deserve respect. People deserve inclusion. OA doesn't respect people or include them - it shuts people out. My apologies for any words that were harsher than intended. Still, nobody is threatening you. I certainly am not, or intend this not as much so much as pushback. You can go along and play the game however you want. Just please don't use such toxic metaphors as tar and feathering when it comes to books; it's demeaning to the memory of people who have been tarred and feathered in real life. All I and others are doing is standing up against racism in our beloved hobby. The only way we have EVER been able to make progress in this hobby is by demanding change and by holding the people in power accountable, with the threat of taking our business elsewhere if we don't get that change. WotC is FINALLY starting to listen to demands for human decency and equal representation and elimination of racist and sexist caricatures and tropes in their games. This only happens because people like Kwan have pushed them into the corner that they have to act. WotC listens to big data. The vast majority of players want the game to be more respectful and more inclusive. OA has NO place in that. It can't. And yet, still, WotC are selling you OA in their backcatalog, because they don't want to lose the potential of a sale to someone like you who wants OA in their lives. If anything, WotC should be removing the book from their digital stores. The least we can have is Kwan on a major panel taking the company to task on this front. The soft pushback you're getting here is marginal compared to the centuries of ridicule and caricature minorities have endured, in which D&D has the very gross history of engaging in. OA is on the wrong side of history, and I applaud Kwan for forcing WotC's hand so far as to even get a seat a the table. [/QUOTE]
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